Does Pac keep his p4p number 1 status if he struggles with Marquez?

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  1. TitoMahawk

    TitoMahawk Retarded trolls detector Full Member

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    This question needs to be asked to the p4p commission.
     
    TitoMahawk, Aug 5, 2011
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  2. Bladegunner

    Bladegunner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Controversial means debatable.

    The pac v marquez fight was debatable. Hence controversial.

    con·tro·ver·sial   
    adjective
    1.
    of, pertaining to, or characteristic of controversy; polemical: a controversial book.
    2.
    subject to controversy; debatable: a controversial decision.
    3.
    given to controversy; disputatious.

    I can't be more clearer than this.
     
    Bladegunner, Aug 5, 2011
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  3. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    ok mybad. i was actually thinking that "controversial" is not of the same meaning with "debatable". but still you cannot actually say that it's a controversial or debatable fight in the sense that it is not a close fight. most actually agree that it's close unless you are divac. also fights like this would not drop down a fighter's stock unless that it was an outright robbery.
     
    puga_ni_nana, Aug 5, 2011
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  4. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    100% correct.
     
    PH|LLA, Aug 5, 2011
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  5. Jetmax

    Jetmax Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How? Why do you think so?
     
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  6. CoDer

    CoDer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Pacman and JMM puts out a top notch performance then even if Pacman struggles he gets to keep the # 1 spot.

    What's Ortiz and Floyd P4P ranking?

    Dumb thread... Oh wait this thread was created by one of the dumbest ***** on the planet.
     
    CoDer, Aug 5, 2011
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  7. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No. If PAC struggles with JMM and Floyd dominates against Ortiz then Manny will surely drop one or two spots. either Martinez or Floyd will take PAC's crown.
     
    KnuckleUp99, Aug 5, 2011
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  8. finalfight

    finalfight Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yet it was enough for Manny? :rofl
     
    finalfight, Aug 5, 2011
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  9. Green Man

    Green Man Guest

    Pac didnt went from not being ranked in the top ten straight to number one just by beating an handpicked opponent.

    Try again.
     
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  10. aka TORA

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  11. bandido

    bandido The Black Bandit Full Member

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    Floyd defeats Ortiz; Pac wins a close fight against Marquez (and both fighters put on a good performance), I'd still put him at #1 but move Marquez higher:

    1. Pac
    2. Martinez
    3. Marquez
    4. Floyd
    5. Donaire

    But if Pac loses a close but clear decision against Marquez:

    1. Martinez
    2. Floyd
    3. Marquez
    4. Pac
    5. Donaire

    But if Marquez shuts out Pac (very unlikely though):

    1. Marquez
    2. Martinez
    3. Floyd
    4. Pac
    5. Donaire

    IMO, Floyd needs to do more than defeat an Ortiz to take the #1 spot and overtake Martinez.
     
    bandido, Aug 5, 2011
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  12. Bladegunner

    Bladegunner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Maybe in that scenario he should face marquez. Oh wait he did that and we saw what happened.
     
    Bladegunner, Aug 5, 2011
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  13. bandido

    bandido The Black Bandit Full Member

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    To be the man, you have to defeat the man. If Marquez shuts out Pac, he clearly deserves to replace Pac at #1. Besides, the Marquez-Floyd fight would have been more than 2 years ago.
     
    bandido, Aug 5, 2011
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  14. MrOliverKlozoff

    MrOliverKlozoff The guy in shades Full Member

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    You mean if Manny beats a p4p top 5 future HOFer in another close one and Mayweather schools Victor "Drums" Ortiz... will they rate Floyd higher for that? Shouldn't, but might, I guess.
     
    MrOliverKlozoff, Aug 5, 2011
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  15. rookie

    rookie Active Member Full Member

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    pac would still be number 1. pac will go down only IF he loses
     
    rookie, Aug 5, 2011
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