Does Pacquiao Beating MAB Again Move Automatically Him Up P4P?

A top fighter but he belongs in the lower bowels of the top 10.

 

i will put pac at #1 if pac beats mab in a devastating fashion (KO5 for example) and floyd winning against hatton in a SD type of fight just like against dela hoya.

 

If PBF gets a draw, a controversial decision or loses to Hatton and if Pacman wins, then Pac should become the #1 P4P. Other than that, the status quo remains.

 

closet pac-hater.:-(

 

All you care about is Pacman, so it is not surprising that this would be your response. Either way, my statement stands and is certainly a more defendable position than you have previously stated.

 

Ho wbout a split lackluster decision for Floyd and a devastating KO for PAC. Would that make Pac #1?

 

Well I don't agree with you and could care less if you think I am being ridiculous. There are other fighters who haven't lost razor thin decisions and have shown a higher level of skill lately than MAB. Soto beat Juarez much easier than MAB, who is clearly not the same fighter he was. You can say it is irrefutable that he is a top P4P fighter, but since I am refuting it, at least in a top 15 sense of the word, it obviously isn't. Ring also doesn't have him in their standings. Any loss hurts....

 

I don't believe that a fighter should drop from their standing without losing, especially when facing another P4P fighter. Unless it was a robbery.

 

a flawed statement. it's not only pac that i like.
i like cotto, taylor, dawson, mijares, winky, b-hop to name others.. dig on my other posts about them so you would see.

 

and i believe he will beat pavlik..

 

pac moves to #1 with a floyd loss to hatton and a KO win vs. mab.

or when pac wins vs. jmm coupled w/ an unimpressive (running and potshot) win by floyd against hatton.

 

Yes, I know you don't only care about Pacman. It was a flawed statement. As was yours about me. Rating Pacman #2 P4P doesn't make me a hater. Rating him where most fans who are not Pinoy doesn't make me a hater. Dig up my posts and you will see that I have defended Pacman (just did so earlier today when someone in this very thread said he was not as PROVEN as MAB at 130) as well. Actually, I rarely criticize Pacman....I do however criticize his fanbase. And not because they cheer him, they should. But often many will say derogatory things about other fighters to try and boost Pacmans standing in their discussion when opposition rises. Or they will rate him using a certain criteria, then that criteria disappears when it is pointed out that it makes another fighter better or makes Pacman look worse.

Do YOU rank fighters based on excitement or what the outcome of the fight is?

 

How about the undefeated Jermain Taylor??? He was as high as #4 but now out of the top 10. He was demoted to the ranks because he is unimpressive. Pac overtakes Winky even thou winky never lost. This is because Pac was more impressive against elite fighter. Same thing with Hatton he went up up to top 5-6 but demoted for unimpressive fights with Collazo & Urango.

It's very Clear Floyd needs to win as impressive as Pac to keep his Place at the Top.

 

I say Floyd #1 also..if both win their fights..

As a PAC fan..I wouldnt want the injustice of seing PAC become number 1 for any other reasons than demolishing all the contenders at 130. Only then can he surpass Floyd.

Now for Floyd to keep up..he also must defeat the top contenders of his weight class. remaining undefeated beating B levels and going to cut it...

so the answer is yes PBF can stay undefeated but can be unseated by a guy who has beaten better competition.

 

I said what I believed, not what Ring believes. I still have Taylor #5 in my p4p list. I didn't drop him. And I don't think his Spinks or Ouma fight were close.

Pacman didn't move ahead of Wright because he was more impressive in his wins, it's because he fought and beat better fighters. Wright had a draw with Taylor and beat an old Quartey.

In this case, Pacman is not fighting a better fighter than PBF is, so the Wright situation doesn't apply. And as I said, I don't drop fighters based on how exciting they are in the ring.

PBF is not a KO fighter, so a clear decision over a prime Hatton is better to me than a KO over a fighter we already know Pacman can KO who is not in his prime.