Does Pacquiao get any credit if he beats Valero?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Casa, Jul 16, 2008.


  1. Casa

    Casa Flomo Pactard Full Member

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    If not, is it because Pacquiao is simply exposing the "crude" fighter that everybody says Valero is or because Pacquiao is beating up a blown-up featherweight, the same way he beat up blown-up bantamweights at 130?
     
  2. criollo

    criollo fearless Full Member

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    maybe? He would get credit if he beats hatton though!
     
  3. HawkFan16

    HawkFan16 Unshot/In My Prime Full Member

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    He'll get perhaps too much credit for it by his fans, but haters will likewise degrade it by the same extent.
     
  4. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    Personally, I would give him a little credit. Not alot though.
     
  5. Southpaw Brit

    Southpaw Brit Member Full Member

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    Yup - I reckon so. I'm not convinced he will beat Valero however...

    :nono
     
  6. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    why not?
     
  7. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Why should he? Pacquiao is not a technically elite boxer by any stretch but he still puts Valero to shame in that department. Valero's only strength is his power, and honestly, if a top notch fighter were to be caught with one of his wide, undisciplined swings and taken out, that would seriously put their status into question. He is just far too unskilled to compete at the top level, it's ridiculous that anyone thinks he carries any kind of elite potential. Hell, his power isn't even really proven yet.

    Pacquiao will take this guy out within a few rounds in impressive fashion, as he should be expected to. I don't see how it enhances his legacy in any way.
     
  8. Southpaw Brit

    Southpaw Brit Member Full Member

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    'Cos Pacquiao's been stopped twice before (admittedly it was early on in his career) and by lesser punchers than Valero.

    I'm not saying I EXPECT Valero to get the win, but I'm saying it's not out of the question & I don't consider it a given that he'll beat Valero.

    :D
     
  9. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Nice subliminal at killing anything Pac has ever accomplished...lol

    A win over Valero is a win like any other.
     
  10. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    The man got credited as being the best P4P fighter in the world based on his victory over Diaz. What do you think?
     
  11. Sweet Pea

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    Awful logic. Pacquiao was severely weight-drained early on in his career at Flyweight, which made him a physically weaker fighter, especially in the chin department. Not to mention he wasn't half as skilled as he is now. To be frank, Pacquiao was pretty much skill-less at Flyweight, though he was still probably better than someone like Valero because he at least punched straight and was a better athlete, even if he relied purely on his straight left.

    Comparing the smaller, weaker, less experienced, weight-drained, far less skilled Pacquiao of Flyweight to the Pacquiao of today is ridiculous. Not to mention Singsurat was a better fighter than Valero.
     
  12. Sandmanl337

    Sandmanl337 Pactard Full Member

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    I'd give him credit for taking a high-risk, stay busy fight that people would like to watch seeing as how Valero seems to carry a lot of power, but it would not enhance his legacy or ATG status one bit..
     
  13. AW0L

    AW0L Active Member Full Member

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    for a tune up fight not much. but he can finally get rid of the beating old guy stigma
     
  14. cardstars

    cardstars Gamboa is GOD Full Member

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    But he's undefeated with a 100% kayo percentage!!!!!!!!! :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :hammertime :hammertime :hammertime :hammertime :hammertime :hammertime :hammertime :hammertime :boogie :boogie :boogie :boogie :boogie :boogie :boogie :boogie :boogie :bananamaniac :bananamaniac :bananamaniac :bananamaniac :bananamaniac :bananamaniac :bananamaniac :bananamaniac :party :party :party :party :party :party :party
     
  15. CJLightweight

    CJLightweight Lightweight Kingpin Full Member

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    he gets average credit, valero is hype