Does Pacs refusal to submit to a drug test make you suspicious?

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  1. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    The test is being administered by the USADA. They are the ones that pick the testing dates. They have already said they wouldn't test within 24 hrs. of the bout.
     
  2. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Well they should just agree to a sensible period of time before the bout if thats what they want to do. The random thing is completely useless and only puts doubt over the whole thing as to when they're going to do it which obviously Roach and Pacquiao are not happy with that possibility of it being close to the bout. Roids ain't gonna disapear overnight, there is no reason not to do it at a set time say a week or two out and then after the fight if thats what they want.
     
  3. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It doesn't mean he is gulity but it raises suspusions.
     
  4. 72Boxer

    72Boxer Member Full Member

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    Pauliemayweather made a good sense for 40 million why would i not give my blood knowing i am naturally clean,i sure will.
     
  5. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Nothing wrong with Pac having blood tested right after the fight, which Pac has agreed to. Void just does not want to fight Pac. Void refused to fight Pac after the Hatton fight.
     
  6. nickfoxx

    nickfoxx On The Nod Full Member

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    by this logic you shouldn't check handwraps until after the fight
     
  7. Reilence

    Reilence Grepolis Mania Full Member

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    What a stupid logic you got there. :patsch
     
  8. Armo_Ruski

    Armo_Ruski best of da best Full Member

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    heres my question im not so sure. how r boxers tested? urine sample and blood ? im pretty sure GH can only be detected by a blood test. urine sample cant detect that. (anabolics r different they can be detected from urine sample)
     
  9. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  10. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    First of all, Manny never refused a blood test, so the title of this thread is already misleading. Roach basically said Manny would be willing to do a test not closer than 5 days before a fight and after the fight. Golden Boy Promotions basically just lied to the world by stating Pac had refused a blood test. Everyone should just relax. The fight will happen. Pac will do the blood tests and he will pass. Doctors have already stated that blood tests are irrelevant if urine tests are already in place. Mayweathers are just trying to play mind games. Act of desperation if you ask me.
     
  11. Fan2010

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    He should just take the test, pass, and say **** you. But agree Manny never refused.
    Take the test, pass, how does opp then think?
     
  12. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Void fans support Chambers using Balco!

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    Here is the LA Times on Chambers, which NO boxing news site has reported: "BALCO was raided by federal investigators in 2003 and Conte later pleaded guilty to steroid distribution and money laundering... Conte has now re-emerged with a new firm called SNAC (Scientific Nutrition for Advanced Conditioning) in San Carlos, and in the last year has started working with a small stable of pro athletes... Conte said he's provided his nutritional supplements to Ward and other athletes, including heavyweight boxer Eddie Chambers, who will fight Wladimir Klitschko for a world title in March... Chambers says he uses many Conte products, from energy shakes to pills that help him recover from weight-lifting sessions and allow him to sleep better. He said he plans to use IHT training before the Klitschko bout.

    Huge double standard.
     
  13. 1 Hitta Quitta

    1 Hitta Quitta Active Member Full Member

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    EXACTLY!

    He says he will before and after and urine test whenever!!! How could I be suspicious after that!?!?!?! Let the ducking begin! Mayweather you lost all respect, I almost thought you had balls for a second and now you pull this ****. Scared of a smaller man with all his talents. Sad.
     
  14. arsabs

    arsabs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Manny Pacquiao has already agreed to drug tests before and after the March 13th fight, isn’t that enough for Golden Boy and Floyd?
    It is public knowledge that Roy Jones, James Toney and others have tested positive for substances after fights through the established testing system . If Manny Pacquiao is on a performance enhancer isn’t the current testing system reliable enough to detect and capture him – if he is cheating?
    Why is Golden Boy and Floyd doubting the current testing system which has proven to work – are they indirectly accusing Pacquiao and the Nevada State Athletic Commission to be capable of CORRUPTION?
    Was Richard Schaefer or Golden Boy involved in the selection of the judges of the Guzman-Funeka fight in Quebec City?
    Are the actions of Golden Boy, Richard Schaefer and Floyd consistent with an entity that wants to stage “Boxing’s Super Bowl”? Or would they prefer to kill the fight and stage a 10-round sparring session between Floyd Mayweather and Matthew Hatton?
    Why won’t Golden Boy and Richard Schaefer and Floyd Mayweather demand and accept a urine test 48, 36 or 24 hours before the fight? Why must it be a blood test – is this their last and final way to kill the fight, except for Floyd coming up with another rib injury?
    Are Golden Boy and Floyd hoping that by drawing blood from Manny Pacquiao within 24 or 48 hours of the fight, that this never before used tactic (to the best of my knowledge) in boxing history could have a minute but mental and physical effect on the strength and punch force of Manny Pacquiao in the fight? Could the loss of blood be their way to try and negate the vaunted power of the Filippino, which they fear?
    Why did Bernard Hopkins and George Peterson previously say on the record that they believe the Pacquiao vs. Mayweather fight will NOT happen on March 13? Are they privy to secretly planned insider information?
    Does Golden Boy and Richard Schaefer know that Floyd Mayweather is a “psychological coward” who will never fight any man who has a chance to brutally beat him to a bloody pulp, and therefore must DO ANYTHING to protect their scared fighter from a signing a contract that could lead to a devastatingly brutal knockout loss, so therefore they can continue to try and milk him with safer handpicks like Matt Hatton in order to fulfill a five-fight contract?
    Where is Matthew Hatton lately and why has he not spoken to anyone from the boxing media?
    Is Golden Boy standing on the edge of the financial cliff and knows it must protect it’s only significant asset of Mayweather from taking part in a fight that would destroy his career, his confidence and his future drawing power?
    Do Golden Boy and Richard Schaefer look at Manny Pacquiao in total awe and dream about promoting such a wonder of the world type superstar? Do Golden Boy and Richard Schaefer ever compare Floyd to Pacquiao in terms of charisma, personality and drawing power and enviously conclude Top Rank is holding a bag of GOLD while they are holding a bag of **** in comparison?
    Did Golden Boy or Richard Schaefer have anything whatsoever to do with the selection of the judges of the Guzman-Funeka fight?
    Since the devastating KO of Miguel Cotto, has Floyd Mayweather carried himself like an ultimate warrior with supreme confidence, eagerly waiting to take part in the biggest event in boxing history? Or is Floyd acting like a frightened coward, desperately trying to set up block after block to prevent the fight from ever happening?
    Why did George Peterson, who works with Floyd advisor Al Haymon, as they together guide the career of Paul Williams, insist with vehemence and certainty on December 2nd in New York City
    that the Pacquiao vs. Mayweather fight “isn’t gonna happen” because some fights are “not meant to be made?”
    Does Golden Boy and Floyd Mayweather fully realize that Manny Pacquiao can’t be beaten by a manufactured illusion with fast fading skills and confidence and therefore must resort to the ridiculous ploy of drawing blood from the man’s body within 24 or 48 hours of the biggest event in the history of the sport?
    Does Golden Boy fear seeing it’s THIRD high value asset in a row lose by brutal knockout to Manny Pacquiao and therefore to ensure the survival of the company must protect it’s already psychologically beaten fraud (no win situation) from the certain defeat?
    Does Golden Boy see Pacquiao vs. Floyd as a NO WIN SITUATION?
    Why does Golden Boy and Floyd Mayweather feel the desperate need to randomly test a one-dimensional fighter, who as Floyd stated, “Knows he can’t beat me” though the said figther is willing to be tested before and after the fight?
    By demanding and employing Olympic style testing and not the customary Las Vegas procedure, are Golden Boy and Floyd Mayweather implying that the Nevada State Athletic Commission will use CORRUPTION and FOUL PLAY to benefit Manny Pacquiao on March 13?
    And one more time: Did Richard Schaefer or Golden Boy HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE SELECTION OF THE THREE JUDGES OF THE GUZMAN-FUNEKA FIGHT?
    After Pacquiao knocks out Mayweather, just what assets are Golden Boy left with? And how much revenue can they generate with Hopkins and Mosley who, despite being top rated pound for pound fighters, have each been mysteriously inactive for over a year each?


    good questions thrown by the writer.
     
  15. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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