Does Pavlik really hit that much harder than BHop?

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  1. ghostlybadge

    ghostlybadge Punch Drunk Full Member

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    i have seen nothing off pavlik that suggests to me that he can beat calzaghe.
     
  2. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    Even if RJJ is the next fight, and JC wins... I believe he will still take a Pavlik Fight. He will get too much critism for fighting two old, out of prime fighters..I still believe they are impressive wins though. But a win over Pavlik would be the most impressive way to end his career.
     
  3. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    Like I said earlier, you have your right to your opinions, but I'll be "drop ****in dead-heart attack" surprised if it ends the same as that **** did. Lacy had to go life and death with ****in Manfredo.:deal
     
  4. Thunderlips

    Thunderlips Active Member Full Member

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    Yes, but that's the only way. If Miranda wins, Miranda will then probably vacate the title and move up to 168. Pavlik won't want to fight some bum for the vacant IBF. Unless that bum is Wright. Sturm is a joke and the laughing stock of the world. Basically, If Miranda beats Abraham, Pavlik will be viewed as ABSOLUTELY undisputed.
     
  5. bigeddie27

    bigeddie27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    based upon observations of both fighters (prime v prime), I definetly have to say pavlik seems to have more power in his shots than bernard. But that is about all he has over him.
     
  6. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    To be fair that was after Calzaghe battered him from pillar to post and after a career threatening injury, rust was always going to be a problem.
     
  7. Samurai

    Samurai I lost an avatar bet Full Member

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    They are both aggressive, come forward punchers with Lacy having the edge in terms of one-punch power.

    Not that quick on their feet, their hands aren't too fast

    Neither care too much about defense

    Solid chins

    Though I'd say Pavlik's jab is definitely better and his workrate is too, obviously.
     
  8. PACZ

    PACZ Czarnina-Sippin []ing Fan Full Member

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    Pure Power. Way More.
     
  9. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    Ok, **** it, I give up. Pavlik sucks **** just like Lacy. :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl


    NOT!!:lol:
     
  10. Fat Joe

    Fat Joe Let's have it right Full Member

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    I think Pavlik pisses all over Lacy. But did Lacy get the kind of hype back then that Pavlik gets now?
     
  11. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Never said Lacy was ****, and i certainly dont think Pavlik is ****. i just said they have similar styles - and simlar starts to their championship careers.

    Either way Joe beats him.
     
  12. Bodysnatcher

    Bodysnatcher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  13. ghostlybadge

    ghostlybadge Punch Drunk Full Member

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    he speaks the truth
     
  14. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    So in your opinion, Lacy would UD 12 the much improved Jermain Taylor that Pavlik did? Pavlik has better defense than most people like to see. He picks of shots with his arms like a damn ninja. Just because he doesn't hinge at the waist and bend in half all the time doesn't mean he sucks at D. Pavlik's hands are faster than people give him credit for too. Manny Steward said himself, "he was a lot faster than we thought!".

    Fair play on the jab and work rate comments.

    Pavlik fairly UD'd JT over 12 rounds, something BHOP couldn't do in 24.
     
  15. o_money

    o_money Boxing Junkie banned

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    At middleweight...yes.