Does Prime Dempsey become undisputed heavyweight champ today?

Dempsey goes thru them like a knife through warm butter. Think of M. Tyson 2.0 , who dealt with toughies like Firpo a giant of a man for his time. Guys then trained harder and smarter its just a fact.

Just look at the video footage available show casing fleet footed fighters who threw actual combinations unlike today's oafs with limited skills.

Dempsey even pummeled Galento once in a suit during Tony's sparring session, need I say more?

 

Everyone knows today's measurements have to be exaggerated to make up for lack of skills to trick the public into thinking bigger is better. Anyone who actually pays attention knows Tyson was closer to 5'8 and Lewis was closer to 6'0.

The only constant is weight, SHW fighters who move around like they just ate 3 Thanksgiving dinners in today's era.

 

Yes, if the opponent is a giant old oaf who was never much of a pro boxer to begin with and took four years off.

Equating Willard with even Joshua or Wilder is silly.

 

A 220lb Jack Dempsey is a scary thought

 

More size will just hinder his nimble style,stamina and punching power. He would be basically just a face like today's modern HW,big and average.

 

This is so patently untrue only a dullard could scribe it.

 

Ibragimov has a good chance of outboxing him. Again, Ibra faced a better opponent than Dempsey ever did and didn't get KO'd.

 

I don't think so.

Joshua's uppercut would give Dempsy a lot of problems and I don't think he has the frame for it.

He'd be a killer at Cruiserweight though.

 

Can you show me just one example of such an equation in one of my posts please.

 

Hm, I always maintain the opinion that boxing back then and today are not really comparable thus I don't know if a thread like this makes much sense.

Boxing changed a lot throughout its history because the world changed. Some stuff got better, some stuff got worse. IMO the biggest impacts on boxing had the increase and then decline of popularity (increase and decline of the talent pool), PPV (increased earnings for fighters, thus less fights over the course of a career), advancements in science (nutrition/medicine/training; thus physically more accurately tuned fighters), rule changes (biggest one is reduction in numbers of rounds) and the increased number of recognized sanctioning bodies.

I think the combination of a thin talent pool, less fights (and thus less experience) and the move to 12 rounds with the advancements in science leads to an increased focus on physical attributes/athleticism over skills today. The number of sanctioning bodies also mean the best fighters test themselves less often against fighters of a similar calibre but if they do they earn a lot more money. Lesser fights also means losses hurt more than they did in the past.

I think all those changes are really in favour of a fighter like Dempsey. Dempsey was incredibly athletic and would tremendously benefit of scientific advancement. The shorter fights would also be beneficial for him, as would be the lesser number of fights, considering his style is prone to lead to a fast burnout. I guess he would also take advantage of the 24-48h weighins and start out at lhw, moving and bulking his way up to cw and finally hw. With huge media support given that he would be an exciting, very good white American hw with a knockout punch. He probably end up dominating lhw, fighting/beating the winner of the cw super six and then pick up a belt at hw. Can he beat Joshua? Maybe, I lean towards him but Joshua is not finished yet and might be too much. Dempsey around today would be very good for boxing though I guess.

 

do you think its reasonable to accept two or three belts are "undisputed enough", as long as you are dominating? or else this could go on forever.

 

Prime Dempsey would certaibly be undisputed cruiserweight champion today, politics allowing. He would then move up and I guess he'd come in at around a very bulky and slowed down 200lb, all things considered, in the modern day. He'd get a strap or two. But the modern politics may prevent his chance at undisputed.

 

yes he would be as undisputed as is possible these days.

 

If you had an actual argument you would have put it forth already.