Does Prime Mike Tyson give Usyk the Spinks treatment?

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  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Usyk got tired v AJ and has never been 15 rounds, Usyk also isn`t very good on the backfoot.
     
  2. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Tyson never went for broke, don`t know what fights you`ve watched, maybe the Stewart fight, Tyson never gassed after 3 rounds and had several mid fight KO`s including Thomas and Biggs.
     
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  3. TheWorstEver(TWE)

    TheWorstEver(TWE) Active Member Full Member

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    Honestly don't know who wins this one. I'd have to say if Usyk makes it to round 7, which I believe he would, you'd have to give him the edge. You've got a fast starter who fades & becomes more predictable the longer the fight goes vs a steady starter who accelerates through the rounds with a high boxing IQ.
     
  4. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    I am categorically not taking Usyk over Tyson yet. I'm not quite convinced a win over Joshua gets him wins over most of the ATG heavyweights in history at this stage. How soon we forget.
     
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  5. Showstopper97

    Showstopper97 The Icon Full Member

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    Tyson via KO/TKO or UD. If Usyk fights aggressive, he gets taken out early. If he fights defensively, he loses fairly wide on points (9-3).
     
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  6. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It doesn't happen that quickly, but I don't think Usyk is able to control the fight against Tyson, much like he has been able to against most other of his opponents.

    Usyk isn't going to be able to apply pressure on Tyson, in my opinion. So, the question might be, how long can Usyk evade and defend, while scoring and winning rounds against Tyson?

    Tyson isn't Gassiev or Huck. Tyson was designed for tracking and taking down out-boxers. So, I find it unlikely that Tyson wouldn't find Usyk and there's no reason to think this wouldn't happen, fairly early in the fight.

    Could Usyk take Tyson's power? He has a fair set of whiskers on him, I think. But Tyson didn't look for just one punch. He'd be hitting Usyk with combinations and with power in both hands, Tyson's doing damage, either way. How much can Usyk absorb while maintaining his form - we simply don't know.

    Truth is, there's no chance we're going to see anything that even resembles this type of fight, involving Usyk. His opponents are, from hereon in, going to be big Heavyweights, with nothing like the dynamism of a Mike Tyson.

    With what I've seen, so far, I'd be backing '88 Tyson to win this and would feel confident in making an additional bet on a stoppage - just perhaps not a first-round stoppage.
     
  7. Tin_Ribs

    Tin_Ribs Me Full Member

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    This. Good post.
     
  8. Heisenberg

    Heisenberg @paulmillsfitness Full Member

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    No. Usyk reminds me of Holyfield in his mental approach to fights. The guy will never freeze.
     
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  9. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    im gonna go against the grain here and saying its quite possible. Thats not to say he does, or doesnt come to think of it, but its sure not out of the realms of possibility. Michael Spinks was one fine fighter. Did he freeze? possibly. But the punch tyson finished him with near put his head through the canvas. I dont remember spinks chin ever being called into question before this fight, his whiskers were just fine. i dont think its aa simple as a yes or no answer, if that makes sense
     
  10. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The majority of his Ko's happened early in fights. As fights went on he became less and less dangerous. This is indisputable. I'm not saying he wasn't still dangerous and yes I know in his prime he did go the distance more than once. I'm saying he was not the same guy as fights went on.

    Don't waste you time bringing up the Ruddock fights etc. He was always at his best early. Conversely, Uysk always gets stronger as fights go on.
     
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  11. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's every fight he ever fought.
     
  12. SheenLantern

    SheenLantern Active Member Full Member

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    Mike knocks Usyk out early, people going crazy with recency bias.
     
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  13. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not really. I have been following Uysk since the amateurs. No one has slept him. He is insanity good defensively and tough as nails. He has way more heart than Tyson who was a front runner his whole career.
     
  14. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Spinks was a natural light heavy, Usyk`s body looks really strong and he was as heavy as a prime Tyson v AJ.
     
  15. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    He never went for broke he was a master counter/pressure fighter.
     
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