Does RJJ see a weakness in Calzaghe he thinks he can exploit?

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  1. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    ...and as a matter of fact, you'll notice calzaghe didn't come anywhere near hopkins for the first few rounds after hops put him on his arse. Anyways, I'd love to see RJJ win the fight, but his stamina has been horrible in the last three outings( although he was looking better against tito.)
     
  2. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What adjustment? After three rounds of catching right hands, Calzaghe changed his straight-forward approach. He used lateral movement, angles and distance to completely neutralize Hopkins' gameplan. That was a brilliant case of adjustment. Nobody out-adjusts Hopkins but Calzaghe did. Have to give him that.
     
  3. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    Let's not confuse ability to KO with power to KO. Roy did drop tito with a straight right hand. He also had hanshaw on ***** st (in the 11th round no less), but his stamina was obviously impeding his ability to finish him off. It's been the same with Roy his whole career -- he genuinely doesn't like to finish opponents off, and he never did. But to say he doesn't have the ability to KO opponents anymore is absurd. Tell you what, I'd put more stock in roy's ability to score a KD than Sakio Bika.
     
  4. Fat Joe

    Fat Joe Let's have it right Full Member

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    Can't believe that some people are impressed by RJJ performnce against Tito.
     
  5. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    RJJ looked very impressive against Tito. But Tito's a retired WW. How could he not look impressive? He only looked Marginally impressive against Hanshaw, a real SMW/LHW, and Dirrell just obliterated Hanshaw. Things need to be put in perspective.
     
  6. Shaolin Box

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    RJJ knows that he's faster and hits harder than Calzache.
     
  7. Fat Joe

    Fat Joe Let's have it right Full Member

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    Not to me he didn't, especially early on.
     
  8. TFFP

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    It's not much use having the ability to KO, but not doing so against a fighter with incredible work-rate, stamina and awkwardness. Especially when you don't have those attributes yourself. If you hurt this guy, you have to get him out of there, and the evidence suggests RJJ can not do it.
     
  9. Fab2333

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    he hasnt fought a credible opponent since he lost to tarver, but the fights he has won he learned to adjust, since he knows he isnt capable of moving and leaving his hands down and gettin out the way of punches n e more. He covers up and counters effectively b/c he still is faster than every1 he fights.
    The way he fights now is an adjustment to him not being able 2 move around ne more. RJ comes 4ward more now than he eve did, and even sometimes presses the issue. I give you he hasnt fought a top level fighter in quite sometime, but that style has worked and made him still competitive, and if it was n e other fighter I would agree with you point. BUT this is ROy Jones JR, i never count him out, he must see something that every1 else doesnt
     
  10. ThePlugInBabies

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    of hand? yes.

    of feet? absolutely no way whatsoever.
     
  11. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    RJ knocked down Hanshaw and couldve knocked him out if he had the stamina 2 do it.
    TITO? C'mon man he was in control of that whole fight, he couldve finish tito off if he wanted 2. As some1 else stated RJ doesnt like 2 hurt people. RJ had that fight under control the whole time
     
  12. TFFP

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    He's gonna have to hurt Calzaghe. How the hell is he going to win a decision against a guy that throws 1000 punches (800 minimum) when he fights 1 minute a round and covers up in a shell the rest?

    Jones has to knock him out, and the evidence suggests he can't do it. If you can't knock out a chubby welterweight after a 2 year lay off, you ain't gonna knock out an elite with a solid chin.
     
  13. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    I dont think he needs 2 knock him out, I think if RJ lands good shots all night long that will alter calzaghes attack. Watch RJ is gonna test that body and he workrate will b brought down. People on here are underestimating RJ body punchin ability. That is gonna b a key factor in this fight 4 RJ
     
  14. Drofrah

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    If RJJ wins, what will the plaudits for him be? Can Calzaghe fans get away with saying Joe is past his best?

    I really struggle to see what is gain in this fight
     
  15. TFFP

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    That was Hopkins plan. "Counter him and slow down his work-rate". Hopkins had been fighting at a higher level too.

    It doesn't really work, because Calzaghe will adjust to it eventually, and his work-rate is ALWAYS 800 punches at least

    If I'm Roy Jones trainer, I'd tell him to go out there and swing for the hills in the early rounds, try and catch him cold. Knock the dude out. Otherwise he ain't winning, no way no how.