Does Sugar Ray Robinson's Boxing Style Look Primitive to You?

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Is Robinson's Technique Poor?

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  2. Fighters get better over time.

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  1. chacal

    chacal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm saying that sugar ray robinson, this one in the video, would never win to cotto. Yes.

    And I specify "this one" in the video, because robinson evolved too. I'm more or less "cheating", because this video is welter if I'm not wrong. Theoretically "his prime". But actually his most brute boxing. He is a much more fine boxer later on (in my opinion, but not in everybody's opinion).

    But I could put you all here robinson fighting with 14 years old like a troglodyte, and you all would say "omg, look at that, he's good, he would have definitely beaten ray leonard." I'm completely sure of that.

    EDIT: Lightweight, I was wrong. he is 19 yo there. Impressive! I tried to cheat.. but I think I cheated too much. Unfair comparisson.
     
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  2. PunchersChance.

    PunchersChance. Active Member Full Member

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    Stop embarrassing yourself.
     
  3. IsaL

    IsaL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bro, log off. If you can't see the SRRs class in that video you posted, perhaps boxing isn't for you.
     
  4. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile I Live! I Die! I Live Again! Full Member

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    Wait, that's footage of the 19 year old amateur Ray Robinson. Maybe, try more mature footage if you want to criticize his technique.

    Also, I didn't know we had any film on him until he was past prime. Interesting.
     
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  5. The Ogdoad

    The Ogdoad Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  6. The Ogdoad

    The Ogdoad Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think that amateur, 19 year old, 135 pound stick man Robinson, KO's junior welter Cotto.
     
  7. Reg

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    I disagree
     
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    SRR would knock Spence out. Spence wouldn't know what hit him. Not taking anything from Spence but SRR was just cut from a different cloth. He is just a harder man than Spence.
     
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  9. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile I Live! I Die! I Live Again! Full Member

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    All the fights in the boxrec database
    1920s: 204,523
    1930s: 207,994
    1940s: 179,320
    1950s: 143,092
    1960s: 96,397
    1970s: 98,043
    1980s: 127,795
    1990s: 138,204
    2000s: 181,764
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    Somebody put that together back in 2011 or 2012. Numbers now seem to be about what they were in the 40s. Of course, it could be twice as many fighters fighting half as frequently or something.
     
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    Very impressed with SRR accuracy and speed . His style was that a good offense is the best defense and liked to wing his punches but did throw some straight punches to finish off a hurt opponent . The video doesn't show the jab being important . Boxing has evolved over the years so very likely SRR would be a Champion today if he was born in say 1988 and had the benefit of good training . Not sure who would win between SRR and Mayweather though in a mythical match-up of prime vs prime .
     
  11. chacal

    chacal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yes, sure, maybe in your dreams. But that's what I said, you all are completely disconnected from reality. You hear robinson and you get automatically blocked. That's nothing but lack of knowledge. No problem, though.
     
  12. chacal

    chacal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, I mentioned that in a former post. You are right, I cheated.

    As I said, I could put here a video of robinson fighting like a gorilla and you all would say "woooww! what a technique, best fighter ever".

    Arguing about robinson's EVIDENT flaws is not possible, I learnt that long ago. At least this conversation is being civilized, and nobody is insulting me, that's something.
     
  13. chacal

    chacal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    here you are.

    Who said he doesnt have class? I said that his boxing is archaic, and that's EVIDENT. A blind man could see it, a guy who cannot tell an atg from a ****** unless being told, no. Tell me again how harry greb was SUCH A GREAT FIGHTER DUUUUUUDEEEE!!!!! when there is no freaking footage at all of him.

    This kind of conversations has no point actually. It was nice to watch a couple of videos of robinson again, though.
     
  14. IsaL

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    Lol, bruh.. do you even have any cred after you comment below??

    SRR could throw flurries that way for one reason and one reason only, because he's arguably the GOAT. He had the footwork, the speed, and the IQ to get away with a lot of things 99% of fighters wouldn't.

    Ever heard of RJJ, not a very text book fighter either, but hella talented and skilled in his own right.

    You know who ended up in the Hospital? Cotto, when he fought Margarito who truly has a baisc and primitive style that consists of no defence.

    Fighters today gas by round 9, and can barely stand by round 12. You think SRR would have a hard time with them who could go 15 strong? Lol

    The talent pool now is lacking, its evident. There are far fewer ATGs today. Pacquiao is one of them today, outside of him no one else.
     
  15. The Ogdoad

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    I remember little Chop Chop Corley, putting hands on Cotto and making him resort to repeated low blows to get the win. So yeah, if Corley was doing that to Cotto. What would a 5'11 guy with hand speed, reach and power do to Cotto?