Does the fact that Dawson rehydrated to 185 lbs...

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  1. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    .......support or discredit the notion that Dawson was drained? Dawson had 9 lbs on Ward in the ring and was pretty much the same in ring weight as his lhw fights. Or does this not tell us anything?
     
  2. Samurai's Slice

    Samurai's Slice ESB Legend Full Member

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    I still think him being drained was an issue, but he would have lost anyways, He couldn't get off in the fight simple as that.
     
  3. crazy8s

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    I was wondering the same thing. I think Dawson's camp spent more time focusing on cutting weight than they let on. Maybe having to put on more water weight than before affected him but, I'm not an expert on metabolic physics so I have no clue.
     
  4. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    :lol: @ metabolic physics
     
  5. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dude was weight drained, simple as.
     
  6. gyll

    gyll Undetectable Full Member

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    Chad said he could fight comfortably at 168. He was wrong. Ward beat him with skills but the weight loss did affect Dawson. I give him credit for at least trying. How can you not appreciate Dawson's effort especially when a lot of boxers these days are avoiding tough competition? So what if you lost? Just return to your normal class and start winning again. Maybe Ward will jump to 175 and maybe unique circumstances will favor you if you just so happen to get a rematch at some point.
     
  7. prelude

    prelude Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ward win over Dawson is legit as it comes. Now PAC vs Hoya is a different story, Hoya was drained forsure.
     
  8. MrFoFody

    MrFoFody Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol: Dawson was severely weight drained. He had ZERO energy and it showed.
     
  9. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Supports it, more than anything. That in-ring weight was similar against Hopkins, right? If so then it shows that he was the same-sized guy -- a light heavyweight -- trying to cut down an extra division. If 185 is his prime fighting/replenished weight, then going down 17 pounds is obviously much harder than it is going down just 10.

    But the fight itself -- getting rocked repeatedly and putting on the floor three times by a non-puncher -- tells us all that we need to know regarding Dawson's physical condition.
     
  10. Arcane

    Arcane One More Time Full Member

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    Weight drained fighters don't always have trouble rehydrating it's the effect of cutting down too much that has an impact on their performance and anyone with a set of functioning eyes could see Dawson looked lethargic in the ring not to mention the amount of times he touched the canvas from a relativly average puncher.
     
  11. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    :good

    I think a lot of people have confused his rehydration to 185, to thinking it means he was back in normal condition.
     
  12. MoJoGoodie

    MoJoGoodie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    HE GOT OUTBOXED!!

    It wasnt like he was winning then faded
     
  13. RonnieHornschuh

    RonnieHornschuh ESB indie police Full Member

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    Rehydrating 17 pounds is nothing unusual. That would mean that Chavez Jr. is weight drained every time, yet he still somehow manages to throw punches.
     
  14. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh, Bull****. (not jumping on Axe, just on this pervasive but completely unsubstantiated concept.)

    The whole "weight drained" idea is mostly rubbish. It's used as an excuse all the time, but there's almost no Physiological basis for it.

    If done properly, the only downside is that you have to watch your vital signs very carefully for a few weeks before the fight. You don't lose nutrients, you don't lose electrolytes (if done properly.)

    You just get a little hungry & a little thirsty. Big deal. By fight time, you should feel normal. I defy anyone to find scientific proof that this phenomenon exists (I've tried) in a situation where the athlete is following careful guidelines.
     
  15. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    There's a whole heap of scientific literature that recommends losing no more than 5% of your bodyweight in water. Even that level of dehydration reduces performance in athletes. Was it also bull**** when high school wrestlers were losing too much water weight and actually dying?
    You don't seem to be able to distinguish between losing weight in a lead up to a fight and cutting weight in the last 24 hours to make weight.
    One thing that really annoys me is when people pose as if they know something and have done research on a matter when they clearly haven't. Here's the first link I found on a google search. It has some references for you to look at. If you need a hand performing a google search in the future give us a yell.


    http://www.grapplearts.com/Blog/201...-of-dehydration-on-physiological-functioning/