Does the fact that Dawson rehydrated to 185 lbs...

Dawson came into the ring looking like a shock fighter. I notice that his punches did not have that snap in it as he was throwing. But then again Wards defense was just flawless that night...

 

I give Ward credit for the win... I think he would have won at LHW as well. Would he have beat Dawson as bad at LHW? And if not, what does that mean?

You keep saying that once a person is rehydrated everything is cool... well, that's not exactly true. That's like saying once you take an opiod analgesic your pain goes away... or once you inject insulin you have no negative effects from having a glucose level of 450 all day long... or once a person gets CPR they are fine (even though they were clinically dead a minute ago), it's simply not true. Yes, I'm a Nurse.

If while training for the fight... Dawson had to not eat as much, not drink as much, or do excessive cardio and not refuel his body properly... for fear of not being able to make weight... he could have been weakened at fight time... no matter what he put in his body after the weigh-in.

There are many possible factors but I think some people are taking away from Ward's performance a little too much.

 

Not only that, it sure seems the Miranda rumor is true. His trainer doesn't bother denying:

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/bo...y-says-weight-drain-hurt-dawson-badly-vs-ward

 

Are you kidding me? Dawson looked like a statue, no lateral movement, no speed in his punches, he was getting hit by every punch Ward threw. According to some reports Dawson spent more time cutting weight then actually training.

 

Dawson didn't have a chance. He could barley beat a 47 year old boxer who had no jab and fights in spots. He wasn't going to beat Ward. Ward was a 4-1 favorite for a reason. Yet it was Dawson's dumb decision to call out Ward in the first place and accept Ward's demands. Dawson just wasn't ready for Ward by the way he's been fighting lately, just watch his fights with Hopkins, Dawson doesn't even know how to throw a left cross properly anymore, it's sad and as a Dawson fan it infuriates me that his skills are degrading.

 

If DLH was a mess going into the fight he should have called it off....But to this day Nacho who was his head trainer and oversaw his training camp said DLH was in great condition...he gave props to PAC simply stating he was too fast and the better fighter that night.

When fighters BALLOON up in weight after weigh in or after fights it shows the athlete did NOT lose the weight the proper way...it usually indicates cutting weight in a very unhealthy way that did not incorporate the proper conditioning nor nutrition.

When you look at the top fighters who are the pinnacle conditioning you see they only gain a few pounds after weigh in...guys like Nard....Floyd and PAC never balloon up after weigh in...Why...because they stay in shape, have the proper strengthening, conditioning and nutrition to make the division limit.

DLH incorporated all the proper elements in preparing for his fight with PAC...even going as far as hiring a doctor to go about his camp from a more scientific approach that was ideal for the physiological make up of his body.

I was VERY surprised PAC won....not only that how dominant he was. I LOST money on that fight but the loss was a factor of a few things....Styles make fights...DLH slowing down facing a faster fighter in PAC and simply giving up resulted in the outcome.

Think of it this way....the punishment DLH took over 8 rounds would have ended A LOT earlier if DLH was on an IV, drained and depleted.

Fighters who take that kind of punishment and last 8, 10...12 rounds have to be in great condition because your legs are like jelly if your conditioning isn't up to par....

I'm not saying that DLH wouldn't have wiped the floor with PAC had Oscar be prime...because that would have been a possible outcome...DLH was much better years before PAC retired him....but DLH was still a top fighter when he faced PAC...and even when he faced Floyd months before.

 

Rounds 1 & 2 - pretty much the same Dawson that beat Hopkins.

 

boxing is the toughest most brutal sport out there. yet every fan on these boards are the opposite. with excuses by the dozens. yes the weight affected him. he lost, he lost big time. he should be given credit for having some balls rather than all this sissy crying and discrediting ward . all ward did was his job.

 

A lot of the big SMWs rehydrate into the 180s. Bute rehydrates to 185lbs, for example. Was Dawson drained? I think he was to a certain extent. Would he have beaten Ward at 175lbs? Not likely.

 

I'm TIRED of all the BULL**** - ASS excuses when a guy loses, ESPECIALLY when he QUITS like a little *****. If all that weight-loss nonsense is true, then he defrauded the paying publicc and should have his purse upheld. Hell, if you're a PRO and a CHAMP and have been fighting for all these years, don't come here with all that DUMB****! At LEAST fight. All that woofin' before the fight that "an inside fight would be suicide for Ward", then let the smaller guy just bully your ass all over the fkn ring is BULL****.

 

I find it funny that some people act like its such a sin for the best fighters in two different divisions to fight each other. Yes I think the weight affected him but he called him out at 168 so that's Dawson's fault. Guy got outboxed and beat up, end of. What if Dawson did that to Ward? He's too big now? Excuses can be used in either favor and its childish. Dawson accepted the loss and I can't see why detractors of this fight can't either especially since Dawson called him out at 168.

Many seem to forget that Pascal fought him at lt hvy and Dawson still struggled heavily with movement and got outboxed. Ward didn't move to that extent but he has a bigger will, better insidefighting, and makes better decisions which would always be factors at any weight.

 

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/bo...y-says-weight-drain-hurt-dawson-badly-vs-ward

 

What does that have to do with specifically what you quoted? :huh

We all saw the fight.

CompuBox was wrong about the 2nd; Dawson outlanded Ward and didn't receive credit for it.

His overall stats should have been a tiny bit higher, due to the misrepresentation of his output in the 2nd.

First six minutes, Chad looked fine. I'm not saying the cut didn't affect him; it almost certainly did. Ward affected him more. :deal