While the IBHOF was established in 1990 it was not always boxings "hall of fame". This was the Ring Hall of Fame which was founded in 1954. This Hall of Fame closed its doors some time ago. Per wikipedia there are currently 142 fighters in this HOF who have not been inducted into the current IBHOF. Many of these men died thinking "they were Hall of Famers" and did not know their elections could or would be basically retconned. Should these 142 guys get automatically inducted so as to clear the way for new candidates? Should there be an expedited process for them? What is your opinion on this very tricky issue?
I wouldn’t think so unless the criteria are the same. Ring still exists. It can revive its HoF virtually and maybe one day find a physical space to house it.
Idk, what i DO KNOW is that Ceferino Garcia and Gus Lesnevich are 1000000% Hall of Famers and both are still yet to be inducted into the IBHOFn despite being in The Ring HOF
Run by a magazine that was involved in a ratings-for-pay scandal, among other things. I’m sure The Ring still owns the rights to its hall of fame. It should revive it, catch up on all the lost years. But it died. Someone else came along and created something … someone who had nothing to do with The Ring or the previous HoF … someone who has no way to reckon exactly how some boxers (and others) were selected for that hall because they had nothing to do with it. Every Hall of Fame has its own selection criteria. The current IBHoF has its own, and should induct based on those. I don’t see why anyone, anywhere, for all time, who ever starts a boxing hall of fame should be bound to recognize those inducted into a previous hall. To me, that doesn’t make sense. That Turki guy just bought The Ring. He probably has enough $1,000 bills lost in his couch cushions to revive that HoF, build a shrine to it, fly every living member over first class and hold a feast to honor them. So he should do that. Let the IBHoF do its own thing.
"I don’t see why anyone, anywhere, for all time, who ever starts a boxing hall of fame should be bound to recognize those inducted into a previous hall. To me, that doesn’t make sense." I don't think fans of most sports would see it this way. Theres a titular HOF and its the highest honor. Thats how its done. If Cooperstown or Canton closed and some other HOF picked up the baton and didn't elect guys who made those HOFs it'd be an incident thats for sure.
I don’t think The Ring’s HoF is on the level of Cooperstown or Canton. If it was, it would still be around. But let’s say Canton went out of business, caput, and no one bought the rights to it. Along comes someone to start a new pro football hall of fame and they decide not to induct OJ Simpson. Would there be debate and discussion about it? For sure. Would the world end or people consider the new hall illegitimate because of it? I doubt it. The 13 guys in the Ring hall who aren’t (yet) in the IBHoF should be inducted into the current one on their own merits, not because they somehow got into a previous hall without meeting the criteria of the current one.
It was founded after Cooperstown and before Canton. When those were the 3 biggest sports along with horse racing. So I think they were on the same level. For whatever reason people didn't want to visit a boxing museum. Maybe a print magazine weren't the right people to run a museum. I dunno but given the timeline it being the HOF was clearly the idea. Even if it didn't work out. I thought its 142 guys not 13. I think the OJ example doesn't really apply here. Thats not about football. At all. If that incident occurred before OJ was elected to Canton he would not have been elected to Canton. I don't think it would have been heavily debated either. Same would go for any boxing example of OJs situation. These fighters are not being denied because they killed 2 people. This is about boxing.