Does the rjj v bhop rematch count?

Exactly. That is the same as Evander saying he will not quit until he unifies the heavyweight belts. I am not surprised about Evander continuing fighting, but I am about Roy.

 

Yes, with a note, just like there's a note to the 1st one. Hopkins was clearly very green the 1st time around, put the Roy/Mercado performances next to Tito/Pavlik, and it's unfair to say Jones beat a prime Hopkins while the rematch - where Hopkins was still the older fighter just less faded - does not.

The 1st is more important in the rivalry without a doubt, but neither match saw TWO fighters at their best.

 

Of course it doesn't count. Even as a known massive B-Hop fan, Jones had been shot to absolute smithereens for YEARS before this pointless and shameful joke of a rematch. Tarver and Johnson had knocked Roy senseless a long time before this fight, Jones was shot to **** by 2005. Jones hasn't beaten a top 10 ranked fighter since he edged Tarver in 2003 or 2004 FFS!!

 

No, it doesnt count for anything. Nothing after the first Tarver fight counts for much tbh

 

I agree. The only thing the post Tarver knockout fight shows us is how gifted Roy was in his prime to avoid being knockedout, since his chin probably was never that great. Once he started getting hit clean he really did not take a punch well at all. He was just never hit cleanly in his prime, which is amazing. Roy showed us how great his skills were, but once his skills diminished he became ordinary. Hopkins showed us more what determination and studying boxing can do for longevity, even when he never was as skilled or fast as Roy. I still rate Roy a little over Bernard all time. His prime was more impressive.