Does Tua beat Ali, too?

It is perfectly possible, just as it is with George Godfrey, Lee Q Murray, Cleveland Williams, and a number of others.

Perhaps the gym rats were right, and there was a layer to these fighters that they were never able to demonstrate in the ring, due to circumstances.

I think we have to go with what was strictly demonstrated however, if we are matching them with fighters like Ali and Frazier.

 

If you know boxing and actually watch Tua you should know he was a very limited fighter. Great left hook power yes but in all other technical capabilities very ordinary....,sub ordinary.

 

I just eat this up with a spoon.:yep
You're the guy who said he had only a left hook? He had a hard fast right cross, and an excellent right uppercut . He had good lateral movement.He doesn't beat Ali , but who does?

 

I liked Tua


If he went with Don King he surely would have won some sort of title at some point.

Look at the early 2000 period where guys like a shot Holyfield, Ruiz and Valuev were able to get titles.

But, he had his chances against a couple of guys with less than stellar chins - Lewis and Byrd, and couldn't get the job done.

No way he beats a slickster like prime Ali.

 

You need to know not having a right hand means. It does not mean you are absent a right arm, it does not even mean you can't punch hard with a right hand. Frazier threw lots of right hands to the body and that punch was not a weak punch. Yet Joe had no right hand. Tua had no right hand. I'll leave it up to you to figure out the definition.

 

Yank went on and on about Frazier's right hand. Ali was ****ing blood because of it. We have been over this and your ignorance on the matter was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Tua nailed disconnected Moorer's senses with a right hand. It was a right hand against Ruiz that put him out. Again, I watched that dude ringside live, in fights and in training. He had a huge right hand but he had to have the right correct distance already created to unleash it. That's why the left came first.

 

Yeah, Tua was not one handed, it was just rare he had the correct distance created to unleash the right hand. It only appeared he was one handed most of the time, creating the false impression that he was one handed.

 

Tua wasn't limited, he was just a specialist who focused on only doing a few things very well.

 

Frazier was a one handed fighter. In boxing terminology he had no right hand. This is common knowledge by those who lived during those days. Name one fighter he koed for a ten count with his right hand? Heck name three fighters he knocked down with his right hand. Can you name two? Try one.

 

The argument of a simp. Frazier was an attrition guy not a one punch guy. His left was usually his finisher but that hardly made him a one armed fighter.

Look at the overhand rights, rights to the body and especially the right uppercuts to the head he landed against Ramos. Dunphy's call... "those right uppercuts are tearing his head off..."

 

Name anyone Frazier knocked down with his right hand. You can't and the reason is....Frazier did not have a right hand. Don't understand why you keep arguing a point I've destroyed you concerning several times in the past.

However all this is very well known by those who lived through that period. That excludes you.

I believe he is the only modern hwt champion to never score a knockdown with one of his fists during his entire pro career. Joe lacked coordination between his left and right fists and this made his right a less than effective weapon. All very well known information. Study up my ignorant friend!

 

How can you claim to destroy someone when you're not even addressing their points? Sorry, you've debated this countless times with many posters, such as Foxy, Seamus, mcvey, and countless others and have been exposed each and every time for the ignoramus you are.

 

Your condescension is mind blowing .

Frazier never stopped or floored anyone with a right hand.
Tua not only floored class boxers with right hands he ko'd them!
Spot the difference?

When you preface posts with, "if you know boxing" and," those who study boxing".
The implication being that you are an expert, and the rest of us are ignorant , and then you make asinine remarks like Tua had only a left hook, sub standard skills etc ,you set yourself up to be knocked down.And knocked down you have been!

1,2,3 ,4,---

Before you make that other clincher :hey," I lived through that period,"[as if that means anything].
Joe Louis was the champion when I was born.

 

It's plain to see he was not one handed, he just happened to throw one hand far more than the other and have far more success with it against a broader range of opponents.