Does Tua beat Ali, too?

Ali koed Bonevena with his left hook and had one of the best if not the best left jabs in boxing history. Ali had two very good fists with complete coordination with both.

 

Wrong again.

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The first KD was indeed by a left hook. The second KD was from a straight right, and the stoppage was from a combination culminating in the left hook.

In any event hardly anything in common with the left hooks both Frazier, and Tua are / were known for.

As for Ali's jab, we are all well aware of its versatility and capability thank you very much. But again, it was hardly a put someone out on their feet punch like say Liston's now was it?

 

I don't see it as controversial to say that Frazier didn't have much of a right hand. It was useful, but not a great punch by any stretch.

Ali didn't have a great left hook, but still he put several opponents down with it (and used it with great effect in some stunning combinations, for example against Williams and Foreman).

Frazier was more of a puncher than Ali, but didn't put one opponent down with his right hand.

 

Whereas Tua stopped several opponents with his right hand:think

 

Such ****. Ali's left hook is what put Bonevena on ***** Street. The follow up punches were window dressing. Ali had a great left hand. Full coordination in BOTH fists and the ability to use BOTH fists together with great effect.

Frazier never knocked anyone down or out with his right hand. No modern hwt champion has that distinction. The reason is he had no right hand. He had poor ability to use both fists in conjunction with one another. Getting in close and pounding away with both fists does NOT mean a fighter has a right hand by the way. All very well known by those close to the game during that time.

 

Here we go, another Ray Charles.

13 seconds, a right from Ali dips Oscars legs.

30 seconds same punch same result.

35 seconds OB lunges wildly with a left of his own and ends up half way through the ropes.

1.18 a left from Ali knocks OB off balance

2.14 Ali throws OB to his knees

3.23 Again OB misses and goes into the ropes.

There really is no need to go on, suffice to say the enlarged part is pure unadulterated horsesh!t on your part. What put Bonavena on ***** street was the fact he was spent of energy, and even then he finished the fight on his feet.

Your opinion of Frazier's right hand is as worthless as you. Again I will take the fact that Ali suffered damage to BOTH kidneys in his Frazier fights as a sign of the power of Joe's right, as opposed to some internet numpty who thinks he should have hit people on the chin for it to count.

As for your obsession with " times " you could have lived through ancient Roman times, still be alive and you would still know less than nothing.

 

You are insane. Pushed Bonevena off balance? That hook was not only thrown perfectly it landed perfectly square on his chin and was a devestating blow. It effectively ended the fight.

Throwing right hands to the body when you have your head on an opponents chest takes little coordination.

The damage to Ali was done over many years of pounding from the likes of Frazier, Norton, Foreman, Spinks.

 

i have no problem seing him knocking out
Your hero louis (glass jaw)

 

I try to avoid that sort of leap of faith!

 

I just saw someone argue Tua would beat Louis.

 

One step at a time.

It might be more appropriate to ask whether he could have beaten somebody on the level of Chris Byrd, before we start matching him with people like Louis.

 

tua was better than galento in every single department.(please debate it and make me Laugh).
if this Bum pig could huRT Joe Louis BAdLy. Then the much stronger tua could kill him. Deal with the reality

 

No he wouldn't have.

Tua had no jab, he had nowhere near the size or strength advantage that Foreman had.

And most importantly Tua had no clue on cutting off the ring, something Foreman was great at and the main reason why Ali had to resort to lying on the ropes for refuge.

Zaire Ali out boxes Tua with little to no trouble.

Free Oqeundo outboxed Tua ffs until he got caught.

Next thread, could Ali beat Fres Oquendo?

 

The most absurd argument ever. It is h2h not legacy . I guarantee you that young and byrd are worse for tua than louis stylisticaly

 

TBH, I'm not sure Tua would beat the Louis who was destroyed by Marciano.