Does Tunney go 49-0 against Marcianos Opposition?

No but I take Walcott to decision Tunney in the first fight. Tunney wins by decision or late Ko in 2nd fight.

I think Walcott of the first Marciano fight beats Tunney

 

Also a 38 year old Moore defeated 25 year old hall of famer Harold Johnson. Johnson was a marvelous physical specimen with handspeed, an ATG left jab, and great counterpunching skills

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So we’ve now established 38 year old Walcott beat 29 year old hall of famer Ezzard Charles and 38 year old Moore beat 25 year old hall of famer Harold Johnson.

Why dismiss Walcott and Moore’s chances vs Tunney so easily based on age?

Especially when Tunney failed to go undefeated vs a 162lb fighter, and a 19 year old fighter.

 

Agreed. In order to establish “dominance” as champion, you need to defeat your number 1 or number 2 contender.

 

Great Point.

It should be noted that in a heavyweight elimination tournament...sharkey only went 0-1-1 against Heeney and Risko and failed to earn a title shot against Tunney.

Moore won his title eliminator vs Valdes who was taller, bigger, longer and had a bigger punch than both Heeney and Risko.

 

It should be noted Despite the broken hand, the fight was not close or competitive. No one other than one blind referee thought Jackson won


"21 year old Floyd Patterson of Brooklyn won decisively before 11,255 at MSG for his 17th straight victory. But his triumph was tarnished slightly by a strange split decision. Surprising most of the fans and writers at ringside, Referee Harry Kessler favored Tommy 'Hurricane' Jackson of Far Rockaway, NY. Patterson had Tommy in trouble from rapid-fire left hooks and leaping right leads in 8 of the 12 sessions. Although the Hurricane stalked after the smaller Patterson in every round, he was staggered in the 2nd,3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 8th, 11th and 12th. Tommy almost hit the deck in the 4th and 12th. But he continued to fight back persistently. His best rounds were the 7th and 9th." -United Press

• Unofficial UP scorecard - 9-2-1 Patterson
• Unofficial AP scorecard - 8-4 Patterson

 

Maybe, maybe not. Moore might be Tunneys most difficult fight with his accurate jab, master counterpunching, ability to set traps with a long reach, combination punching, high ring IQ, and tremendous punching power and finishing ability. Moore was also not smallish like most of Tunneys opponents.

I think it’s a really close fight.

Moore was 38, but he was a great older fighter who was still defeating prime hall of famers in their 20s. Like fitz, Hopkins, and a few others...he was a great older fighter who retained most of his abilities until he was 40.

 

Sharkey had two title eliminators vs very winnable opponents Heeney and Risko, and failed to win either of them. Sharkey held a height and reach advantage over both. Heeney was 5’10 72” and Risko 5’11 74”. Sharkey held a 1-2” height advantage over both and a 4” reach advantage over Heeney.

Patterson and Moore won their title eliminators vs number 1 contenders who were 6’3 with 80” reaches. Patterson and Moore won despite significant height and reach disadvantages.

 

Probably not.

I’m curious, Would tunney go 3-0 against Layne? Walcott and Charles failed too. These fights took place 2 years before they fought Marciano.

Also does Tunney beat the Walcott who scrambled Charles brains in Pittsburgh? Or the version who beat the crap out of Marciano for 12 rounds? you yourself had doubts