Does Vitali have a better option than David Haye.

**** off, Manning.

 

Povetkin doesn't want it. Helenius is injured. Then you have some cruiserweights and his brother who he's said he'll never fight.

 

How old is the Klits mam???

I wouldnt want anything bad to happen to her but if she wasnt around maybe they would fight, or maybe thats just an excuse not to fight???

What you reckon?

 

Go out of my way to follow it more often than the rest of the weight classes in fairness. Usually try to go out of my way to watch any decent young prospects or anybody I would rank inside my top 100. I'll probably watch Macklin Vs. Martinez if i'm still awake and not to pissed out of head, although not overly bothered with it being a mismatch.

 

Ahh right...Wish the HW's was as big as the mid weight classes.

 

Love it when the guy with Bernard Manning in his avatar accuses others of being racist.

 

Are you suggesting the Klitschko brothers fight each other or would've done so without their mother? I don't know why people constantly ask them to fight eachother and give them flack for it. I have a problem with that. These guys are BIOLOGICAL brothers, on top of that they're VERY close. I know fathers who don’t even let their sons spar too often, let alone fight.

I’m not crazy about how the Klitschko brothers do certain things, but I agree with them 100% on NOT fighting each other. They have morals. They don’t have to scramble for moolah just because we throw it at them. These guys will have to live with fighting each other for the rest of their lives, long after the fans stop caring about them. I don’t blame them. I like money as much as the next man, but I’m not fighting my brother for any amount of money. I’m not fighting my brother because the media and fans want clarity. I’m not fighting my brother because people want to see one champ. Respect to the Klitschko's on this one.

 

Unfortunately he doesn't. No fighter has any interest in capitalising on the gap in the market. Price, Fury etc are all scared. If they really wanted it they could have one big Helenius type fight and throw themself into the mix.

The Klits have cleared house and now have a STRONG sense of fear running through the ENTIRE division - Price, Povetkin etc The majority of guys who do fight them are there to collect their cheque - Mormeck.

 

I don't think it's a case of Price and Fury being 'scared'. But more of them just not being good enough at this stage (or perhaps never) and them and their braintrusts knowing that. I don't think there's anything wrong with it either.

 

I use the term loosely. I don't mean physically scared but they are lacking in the complete belief that they have the beating of these men unless they do EVERYTHING possible to put themself in the best position to fight them.

Sometimes this isn't a bad thing but I think back to Floyd Mayweather dominating Hernandez in his 17th fight, I think back to Whitaker turning Ramirez in circles in his 16th fight, I think back to Ali bamboozling Liston in his 20th fight and I don't see a remotely similar mind set. The mindset that seperates the natural born winners from the come agains.

If you are a fighter and you want to really be big (and the Klits are methodical with one aging and one breakable) and you aren't chomping at the bit then you aren't really a fighter. Sadly this is the case for everyone in the division. Haye looked the exception until he shat himself and collected his pay cheque.

 

bullucks.

 

No.

 

If Haye actually goes for it he could put a beating on Vitali! It's open season on his chin.

 

Vitali is there for the taking especially against a fast boxer. Yet again the question will be - will Haye grow a pair or enter the ring with a fanny.

 

You're talking about greats there, who were ready aswell for their moments. These guys (Price and Fury) are relative novices with serious flaws and are not even really THAT good. It's apples and oranges. You don't take them and feed them to the sharks or make lambs to the slaughter. That's called cashing out which they're not at a stage in their career to be doing. You plan their career accordingly and give them the best chance. Let's not get romantic here. There is NOTHING wrong with them and their brainstrusts being realistic. That's not having a 'lack of believe' that's being smart and true to their abilities. :good