Does Ward Kovalev winner deserve to be pfp #1

I agree with Tyson Fury when he said p4p is bs. If you cant beat the best HW then your not the best yr the best at your weight.

Like Floyd TBE?!

Lets see if he can beat Joshua to call himself the best ever. No the best among manlets

 

That's not feasible in any sense of the word. Tyson Fury was and is a numnuts. Fighters at lower weight classes are typically more skilled, hence the reason they invented p4p lists. Because true a HW would beat a LW, there's 100-150lb weight difference, but are you going to tell me you believe Tyson Fury is as skilled as Roman "Chocolatito" Gonzalez, or GGG, or Lomachencko?!?

 

Doesn't matter if he's as skilled he'd still batter them with ease. Skill is great if you can use it to win

 

I am okay with that , but the real question is : are there enough elite fighters in their weight class to keep the N1 spot? I don't see anyone else except Adonis but he will be easily beaten by both fighters. So if the winner wants to retain his N1 place , should he go up and fight with cruisers or even drain to fight in the middleweights?

 

With fighters the likes of Beterbiev, Nathan Cleverly, Adonis Stevenson. I'd say the winner can hold on as long as he fights guys like these, and if GGG ever gets the balls to move up. Not the most stacked division though, so good question.

 

That's why p4p is a figurative ranking, not literal. If they weighed the same kind of thing.

 

No...GGG is the number 1, winner of Kovalev vs Ward will be number 2.

 

Depends on their performance actually. If they duke it out well then the winner may deserve the P4P high but if they stare at each other and dance around for 12 rounds then you know it's a snoozer BS.
I mean, whoever is the winner should EARN it not just get it.

 

Based off of what? his Resume. Both Kovalev and Ward's resume are far better. GGG still needs to fight someone. Let alone a co-top 5 p4per. I think even the loser deserves to be ranked higher than GGG. GGG doesn't IMO belong in the top 5, especially with the likes of Chocolatito, Bud Crawford, Ward, Kovalev

 

I still say it is Roman Gonzalez. If Kovalev wins he cements himself as #2, if Ward wins I'm putting him at #3 behind Golovkin. Right now I don't have Ward in the top 10, but I think he has the skills to be there but he hasn't fought anyone decent enough to warrant his placement recently.

 

Fair enough, True Ward hasn't faced anyone recently of note, but at least he has faced someone of note. GGG has fought anyone of note at all. IMO. Skill wise he is top 5, his resume not so much.

 

I'd give it to Ward-Kovalev but if Roman beats Cuadras in the rematch CONVINCINGLY, then I don't know I'd probably pick Roman although the winner of Kovalev-Ward is the better fighter.

After November it's going to be:
1. Andre Ward
2. Roman Gonzalez
3. Vasyl Lomachenko

 

Eh, 160 isn't the strongest division but he has beaten a lot of top 10 fighters from there. It isn't just his wins but how dominantly he wins. If those fights were competitive, even if they resulted in a KO win for him, I wouldn't put him above Kov but because he has completely steamrolled everyone he has come across he's my pick for #2. I'd completely understand if someone has him much lower though. This list is subjective and everyone has a arbitrary criteria mixed with a little bias in it.

 

in short : yes

 

My point is a P4P title should be special, as it was when it was first created.