Does Wilder AJ happen if Wilder beats Fury in low performing PPV?

Short answer, yes the fight still happens. As others have said above, it makes too much money not to happen eventually.

A Wilder win with poor PPV figures just weakens his team's position within negotiations. Firstly, he wouldn't be able to claim a capacity to deliver significant US revenue. However, given that Hearn has indicated the first fight will be in the UK that wouldn't have too big an impact, because US PPV sales at that time aren't likely to be huge and Hearn will be using the disappointing performance in pushing for the fight to be on DAZN in any case.

The other impact will be to reduce Wilder's other options should he not agree terms with AJ. Fury was the biggest fight he could make outside of AJ and if he can't make that work his chances of driving signicant PPV figures from an Ortiz rematch, Breazeale or Miller defence don't look good. Again, weakens his position in negotiations, but probably concentrates his teams minds on making the best deal they can with the division cash cow.

Given that Hearn is now talking a percentage and a two-way rematch clause there should be every chance the fight is delivered. Wilder's now 33, that's another factor that may encourage his team to compromise.

 

i haven't heard anyone say a word about it on fb, at work, or anywhere else. if it breaks 100k i will apologise on here. if it breaks 300k i will perma ban myself. no one in the States has ever heard of Fury, few have heard of Wilder.

 

A - When has Fury proven he can draw big in Europe? He did 545K PPV's vs Wlad, hell even Usyk/Bellew did more than that does Bellew or Usyk deserve 50/50 vs Joshua if they fought him? Joshua routinely does double what Fury did in his best PPV. When Joshua fought Wlad he did almost 3 times as many PPV's. You should care what he made vs Pianeta because that was his highest payday, more than he got for fighting Wlad.

B - Resume doesn't mean **** really when it comes to how much you make, in a perfect world the best fighters with the best resume's would deserve more but we live in the real world where how much you generate defines how much you make, hence why Hopkins made 25% vs Oscar's 75% when they fought despite Hopkins having beaten a fighter who had beaten Oscar and why Mosley still made less in the rematch after beating Oscar. If Wilder/Fury bombs it weakens his leverage even if he wins, that's the truth of the matter. You can keep pretending that isn't the case, but that changes nothing in the real world.

Wilder won't accept chump change your right and he doesn't deserve chump change even if he does bomb at the box office vs Fury he deserves a split and a decent one but not 50% maybe not even 40% if it does really badly. Because if Wilder can't draw in US fans he brings nothing to the table and Joshua while would generate more in the UK fighting Wilder might not draw enough to cover his purse demands without having to take a pay cut and I can't see Joshua ever agreeing to that.

 

The fight happens no matter what way Wilder wins should he win.

 

Except it was Charles Martin himself who called out a novice 14 fight Joshua.

A calculated gamble that was worth accepting and taking and subsequently proved to be bang on the money.

The financial payoff since has multiplied by £xxxxM with titles and recognition as the #1 in the division coming along the route, too.

Joshua has fought the best - to date - that the Heavyweight scene has to offer right now. Fury was off the radar with his own problems whilst Wilder has feasted upon Bum City (Ortiz aside) for small change, which fair enough, is his call and entitlement although it will always leave doubts in peoples minds.

35% of a Joshua gate and PPV would represent an excellent return for Wilder and if I was advising him, I would say "Take it Deontay".

If Fury does the job this weekend and spoils Wilders future AJ plans, then a re-match aside, I am not really sure where Wilder goes next. Certainly, any leverage that he thinks he has would diminish.

An interesting week or so ahead in the heavyweight landscape I am sure you'll agree.