Does Wlad beat any of these guys if so why or how.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Shane, Feb 24, 2008.


  1. TFFP

    TFFP Guest

    It's not about denial, if Wlad had ever beaten anyone to suggest he could live with these guys I would happily acknowledge it

    Wlad fights scared. Can you imagine Lewis sitting on the end of his jab all night, like Ibragimov? Infact, Lewis is the one guy that can match him jab for jab. Difference is, Lewis is well rounded, and more importantly unafraid of varying his work

    Eventually he's going to land, and Wlad will be needing a standing month count
     
  2. skier47

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    Wlad got up four times after being blasted by Sanders. He was still
    on his feet when the ref stopped it. A true warrior. Jello-jawed
    Lennox was put into a near coma by the much softer hitting Rahman.
    Rahman has always said that by far the hardest puncher he ever
    faced was Sanders. The longer Lewis stays retired the more invincible
    he becomes. Good grief I saw that overated, inarticulate buffoon
    in a life and death struggle IN HIS PRIME with Ray Mercer. Nuff said!!!
     
  3. kirk

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    Rocky Marciano?????

    the 5'10'', 185lber??????

    do you guys realise, that he is almost 20lbs lighter and 2 inches shorter then CHRIS BYRD!!!

    maybe you guys need to see wlad up against a 185/90lber... because some of you are not dealing in reality.

    Rocky is 8 inches shorter, and about 50-60lbs overweighed against a VERY SKILLED opponent. Wlad would jab his head off, and when rocky would get in, wlad would just clinch... jab, right hand... back up, rocky wouldnt make it the distance the way he gets hit.

    JACK DEMPSEY????

    the 190lb mean sob??


    are you serious???


    some of you are doing huge combos of

    Underating Wlad
    Overating past greats
    Totally underestimating how much size along with skill would make a differance in these fights


    wlads right hand landing ANYWHERE on a 180 to 190lb man is gonna move him to the core, if it hits the chest, shoulders, neck, let alone head.

    and please... if your gonna bring up canera as an example, its a horrible one.



    also, just for an example of just how big wlad would be compared to rocky..
    Sultan is 4 INCHES taller and about 30lbs heavier then rocky
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  4. Jazzo

    Jazzo Non-Facebook Fag Full Member

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    Sensible post.
     
  5. skier47

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    Great post. That visual you presented was very convincing. A
    large framed 6ft. 2 in. man like Sultan looks like a runt next to the
    towering yet athletic Wlad. Imagine those tiny heavy's of yesteryear.
    Most of them barely six feet in size and hovering around 200lbs.
    soaking wet. Most would be outpointed easilly from distance or
    pulverized by the right cross if they closed to engage the gifted
    giant. It's just physics.
     
  6. 11player

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    Wlad has barely hit his ceiling, from now on he may start building the legacy that will define him, so it's way too early to compare him with the all time greats.

    I think it will take another three years to correctly place him among the HW history.
     
  7. skier47

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    That's of course true but haters on this forum talk so much trash
    about Wlad that people tend to come to his defence. I've read
    idiots suggest Ken Norton would easily defeat Wlad. Man, Norton
    got K.Oed by every hard hitting guy he ever met and usually in quick
    and brutal fashion. I like Norton but he was made to be blown out
    by the likes of Wlad. But you're right, the legacy thing takes time
    and Wlad's a work in progress.
     
  8. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wlads chin is way to weak to hang with any of those guys that were named, the man dont have the mental strength win a dog fight.
     
  9. fidds

    fidds Boxing Addict Full Member

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    im sorry if purity, sanders and brewster can beat wlad how does he beat lewis, tyson or holy in their prime ?

    let alone ali or holmes :tired

    I agree he may be to big for dempsey or marciano but i cant see wlad koing the g.o.a.t in his prime in 4 rounds like some of the nut huggers have been suggesting and who ever thinks he beats lewis needs to wake up seriously :yep
     
  10. inchpunch

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    It's a different time now, Dempsey, Marciano, Patterson would be small cruiserweights today, they couldn't survive in the ring with Wlad.

    Wlad versus Foreman, Frazier, Ali, Holyfield, it depends on which version of Wlad we talk about. On a day when he bonks like he did againt Purrity and Brewster, he could easily lose against these four and the current version of Wlad on his best night would be favored IMO to beat them. Throughout a whole career, he would have a few sub -par fights and the difference between the best and the worst Wlad is huge.

    Lennox Lewis against Wlad, both on their best night, would be an amazing fight, 50:50 for me.
     
  11. inchpunch

    inchpunch Active Member Full Member

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    On the nights he lost to Purrity and Brewster, he could have lost against Chris Byrd. The difference between the worst version of Wlad and the best is huge, so conclusions from his losses about whom he can beat on his best night are short - sighted.
     
  12. Sakura

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    Those same guys say's wlad beat only small guys like Byrd,Brewster etc...Ali was/is 6'3--> avatar
     
  13. freelaw

    freelaw Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Please post enlarged version of your avatar. That really makes you wonder about how Ali and other old-timers would manage against modern heavyweights. :think
     
  14. Sakura

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    Best might be to get wlad small cruiser opponent like O'Neil Bell or Mormeck..
     
  15. freelaw

    freelaw Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As for LL vs Vitali I always thought that it was Lennox who was closer to being decapitated :think... And that if not cut Klit would finish him within a few next minutes probably :yep.