Does Women's Boxing Deserve More Respect?

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  1. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    And what's the next female super fight after those two?
     
  2. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Respect is an awkward choice of word.

    Do I respect anyone who gets in the ring to be punched in the face? Yes
    Do I respect the right of women to box? Yes
    Do I respect the overall quality of women's boxing? No, the vast majority of it is awful
    Do I respect women enough to hold them to the same standards and expectations I place on male boxers? Yes
    Do I respect my right to pick and chose the sports I watch and follow without feeling obliged to cheerlead substandard fare? Yes

    Women's boxing is evolving but stop pretending the vast majority of it is any good. We all know it isn't...
     
  3. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Based on number of participants, holding a woman's belt is about as tough as being the best guy at any given sport in a town of about ten thousand.
     
  4. Austinboxing

    Austinboxing British Boxing fan Full Member

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    They don’t avoid the best cause fighting the best is the only way they get paid. Whilst in mens boxing they can make a killing by fighting bums. The women would duck each other too if they could afford to.
     
  5. Marcus S.

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    An awesome fight is an awesome fight to me, no matter which gender it is. The talent pool may be much smaller compared to the main and the ceiling may be lower, but a barnburner like Taylor/Serrano is a classic regardless. Same with other women's boxing matches I've seen.
     
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  6. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    I don’t like lowering the standards.
    You want to box then box three full minutes a round.

    No disrespect to the women who risk it all as Ann Wolfe would still KO my aze under a minute.
     
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  7. Jacques81

    Jacques81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Only if Savannah Marshall knocks out that mouth Shields.....
     
  8. Sooncreate3

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    McCaskill vs Cameron. (What I mean is p4p fighters fight each other more often)
     
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  9. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    The reason why they fight each other more often has been explained above.


    There are far less boxers to match up against, and that's by huge orders of magnitude. Firstly, this increases the chances of and speed by which a female boxer can reach P4P level and secondly, it makes 'super fights' much more likely because there are far, far few fights to be made which don't fit that description.

    So yeah, P4P female fighters match up more often but not for the reason you allude to. It's the consequence of basic mathematics not an atypical desire to do so.

    Let's look at Jessica McCaskill. Her first three fights were against boxers making their pro debut. Her next three opponents had a combined total of 21 fights before she fought Taylor who had a fight record of 7-0 at the time they shared the ring. It's not a case of seeking out the best opponents ASAP more a result of not having many other options.

    Not hating on women's boxing, just stating facts...
     
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  10. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    I’m not really interested in women's boxing to be honest, it’ll always be a niche sport. Women have very weak upper body strength which provides less knockouts and entertainment overall. Women’s MMA is much better and more popular due to women having a variety of ways to attack. Valentina Shevchenko has been one of my favorite fighters recently regardless of gender, I always watch her fights.
     
  11. Philly161

    Philly161 "Fundamentals are the crutch of the talentless" banned Full Member

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    Yes. They may even deserve more considering they often deal with more obstacles and get less money.

    This is one area mma is clearly ahead of boxing and it's probably part of what has caused MMA to command a large portion of the fight fan audience in some countries. Boxing is finally starting to catch up but boxing needs a holly holm or cris cyborg. ****ing sausage fest up in here.
     
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  12. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Ebanie Bridges only has appeal because of her simp fanbase. Won't be long before she makes an Onlyfans.
     
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  13. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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  14. Marcus S.

    Marcus S. Member Full Member

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    Yeah, this is true. I wish she were more famous for her boxing, but we all know that's not the case. She's famous because she's hot.