doez Zhang hit harder than George Foreman ?

Forman had an 81% ko percentage. Zhang has a 75% ko percentage.

Cobb was 234 for Holmes. Mercer and McCall were almost 240 for Lewis.

 

Zhang's lower ko percentage is more reflective of his poor stamina than his power

 

No. Foreman hits harder.

 

Ye, didn't notice Boxrec uses the useless knockout % out of fights won statistic.

"[..] or were shorter [..]

They had 6'3, 6'2, and 6'1 respectively, compared to 6'6 of Helenius, 6'5 of Joshua and Dubois, and 6'4 of Whyte, and noticeably lower weight they were willing to consistently carry into the ring at their best.

 

This is ridiculous

 

cringe

frazier is smaller then me mate, he a fatso and of course foreman was on the juice, just like everybody back then and today. You are gay for these guys, its not even like I give a fuk about zhang or fury, its just facts.

 

Zhang cracks chins, Foreman cracked skulls.

 

there is a consistent trend since the 60s that Hw get taller and the best HW is usally the tallest one that can still retain the most athleticism for his height. Ali-Holmes-tyson exception-lewis-klitschkos-fury

 

People who say that old Hw would have a chance against todays Hw are on a similar level with people who think men should be allowed to compete as trans athlets in womans combat sports, its complete denial of obvious facts

 

George foreman was 6’3 and 220 when he fought Ali

Zhang is a 6’6 guy at 287 with a lot of speed. George foreman isn’t superman lol, prettt sure zhang with 67 pound weight difference has more power on his punches lets be real.


I’m 220 at 5’11, leanish. Foreman more like a modern day cruiserweight back then, only so much power he can generate because his power was different to guys like Wilder and Tyson who are based on extreme velocity, they are the exception but Tyson is very well built for his height

 

He probably hits harder as he's 60lb heavier than Foreman and 40lb heavier than the likes of Klits and Lewis.

 

I never saw Mercer in better form than at 237. He would be in the low 250s if he were in the normal height range of superheavies today (like Joshua and Zhang).

 

John Tate was bigger than Holmes and pretty athletic. Also Bowe was the man for a couple years and he basically beat Holyfield because he was bigger.

 

You literally refused to respond to factual arguments addressed at you.

Modern heavyweight landscape and removal of same day weight-ins would definitely push out a lot of man out of the division, especially from the 175 era. The likes of Ellis, Patterson, or Quarry would absolutely remain in the Cruiserweight or lower to avoid a constant uphill battle against the ever enlarging pool of bigger men increasing the statistical chances at an appearence of a genuinely skilled, athletic, and sizeable fighter to boot. That is a combination which becomes scary, as seen in say Lennox Lewis. A complete big man becomes a hurdle too far.

That is undeniable.

What's false, is the fat and inch worship. History of boxing is no stranger to Primo Carnera, Buddy Baer, Jess Willard, Chuck Wepner, or Jack O'Halloran (6'6, 6'6, nearly 6'7' 6'5, 6'6 respectively. Primo could also come in at 270 lbs or more.) They all only achieved a degree of success, because while their size complimeneted other attributes, it did not make Carnera a harder puncher, or O'Halloran's chin any sturdier. With the exception of Buddy, Foreman hit leages harder than them (as if, surprise, punching mechanics weren't genuinely complex; the likes of Barbados Demon, Sam Langford, and Jimmy Wilde punched way above their own weight.)

As stated before, increasing size of heavyweights naturally increases the chances of men like Lennox Lewis, or Vitali Klitschko to emerge. It does not mean that theoretical 6'6, 250lbs fighter would not get demolished by history's finest like Foreman, Liston, Tyson, or Louis. We've already seen that happen. Hence why fights are dicussed based on individual basis.

 

Punching power is more complex than just mass and velocity. Leverage, hip to shoulders, ratio, and most importantly skeletal structure play a very important factor. Liston hit extremely hard (185cm) despite not being the tallest or the heaviest due to the combination of these attributes and brick-like hands. Weight and speed definitely influence power generation, but power transfer is another major factor. Hard punchers (not even necessarily explosive ones like Wilder or Shavers) are often described as having those bricks hands, which feel like being hit by concrete.