Dogboe

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Twentyman, May 12, 2019.



  1. Twentyman

    Twentyman Watching Netball with Adam Smith Full Member

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    Thing is, we criticise the likes of Canelo for putting stipulations in fight contracts that prevent his opponents from putting on a shed load of weight after the weigh in, however, that’s probably the best way of dealing with it. Obviously, other fighters don’t have the huge money behind them like he does, though.
     
  2. lencoreastside

    lencoreastside Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There will have to be an in dressing room weigh in on the night pre fight. With the maximum allowable disparity being a tiny percentage of body weight. It's the only way. A tiny percentage of body weight. A pre fight weigh in. Make the limit or lose your purse. Then and only then will we see fair, safe evenly matched fights between equal size boxers.
    The current situation is lethal. Guys like Munguia Hurd navaratte and Callum the Plank Smith are deadly threats to the life and health of their opponents. They need to be weeded out of boxing smaller men and forced to face guys their own size.
     
  3. N17

    N17 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I watched the first fight and Dogboe was well beaten and beaten up so I have no idea why he or his team came straight back to fight the same man again.

    I can only assume they had a rematch clause and they triggered it, it looked a stylistic nightmare in the first fight and I would like to know what they thought they could change in an immediate rematch to turn that around?

    They gambled and it backfired, I have no idea who is advising him and maybe he needs to look at the people around him because it's looked like they were more concerned with money than his career and health.

    It just looked like very short term thinking, maybe a money grab (not sure what he got in the return.. contract wise) or maybe a gamble/short cut because they know a title brings in more money and they didn't want to wait to get paid.

    After the first fight Dogboe should have gone away, recovered properly, changed everything, paid proper sparring partners, then had a "gimme" just to shake off any cobwebs or terrors and then maybe a top 10 fighter and challenged again, maybe a different world champion.

    He is 24 years old, there wasn't a need to rush back like that, in those circumstances and against that opponent. He won't take many more beatings like that and taking them back to back like that will have shaved a couple of years of his career anyway.

    His father needs to have a word with himself also, Young Dogboe was a mile behind in my opinion, he wasn't winning that fight, he could have pulled him out a lot earlier than that but instead he let's him take a 34 minute beating and then decides enough is enough in the final round.

    I understand you have to roll the dice sometimes, but that wasn't a gamble worth taking, and yes people will say "hindsight is a wonderful thing" but that has nothing to do with it, how many people honestly thought after say 6 rounds that Dogboe had any chance of turning it around?
     
  4. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    It's a guess but based on the interviews I'd heard previously (he featured on Costello and Bunce) I don't think they had much money behind them and thus felt pressured into taking whatever was on offer. The first fight was the first decentish money he'd made and he felt under pressure to take it to repay the support he'd been given by others around him.

    The same pressures probably fed into the decision to chase the rematch. Once they lost the belt maybe they figured it would be a long time until they could get into a similar position again so they rolled the dice and went for broke.

    Unfortunate, but I think understandable if they were operating without the support of an influential organisation behind them?
     
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  5. Twentyman

    Twentyman Watching Netball with Adam Smith Full Member

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    I agree with every word.
     
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  6. Potwash

    Potwash The Real Untouchables Full Member

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    Great post.
     
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