Dokes vs Snipes prime

Dokes was the better fight and would be favored to win. But I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see Snipes pull off an upset decision. Dokes blew hot and cold in the early 80's while Snipes really giving hell to the best fighters out there. One thing about Mr. Snipes... You didn't want to get in the ring with him unless you brought your "A" game.

 

Dokes had the better career, and had more talent, should be favored and most likely would win, but it wouldn't be a walk in the park..

Both men hit the deck, in a grueling brawl but Dokes wins a close UD..

 

Snipes at his best was just as good as Dokes. Not as hyped, but just as good.
But I prefer Dokes. Snipes did too much skipping around throwing arm-jabs. Dokes was crisper and more aggressive.

 

50-50. I have long maintained that so many contenders of that period were the same level and that's why they passed belts around and could not beat one another with ANY consistency. Only Holmes stood out because he could actualy win at that level. Leon Spinks, snipes, David Bey and Marvis Frazier most likely become belt holders against the rival champions had they not fought Holmes.

 

Dokes,imo faster hands better boxer ,all round more talented than the very game Snipes.

 

I might give Marvis a chance, but I have reservations about the remaining three you mentioned. Leon Lost to Coetzee, drew with Lopez and never again had much success. Snipes was beaten by a green Witherspoon, Alfredo Evangelista and gifted against Coetzee. David Bey beat a declining Page and got his ass kicked against everyone else.

 

I disagree on Marvis Frazier and Leon Spinks.
But Bey and Snipes could.

Snipes-Witherspoon could have gone either way. The "green" Tim arguably beat Holmes in his next outing.
Snipes beat a good Berbick too. Snipes had Holmes in all sorts of trouble.
On those three fights alone, he would have stood a chance in an alphabet title shot on the right day.

Page's loss to Bey was in-between his razor-close 12 round loss to Witherspoon for the WBC, and his 8 round KO win over Coetzee for the WBA.
In fact David Bey was originally set to go challenge Coetzee but considering the apartheid situation and the reasons of the protest movement he declined.
Bey fought well against Holmes too. But he was matched hard after that , and most fighters, if they lose a couple in a row and the rest of the business, can become just an opponent.
The Bey who fought Page and Holmes could hang with the title-holders.
I reckon.

 

Page's win over a declining coetzee just before fighting Bey makes David look good. But in truth, Greg was on the verge of falling into the abyss when David Bey beat him and Bey never did anything else before or after that win. An aged Holmes, Berbick, Bonecrusher, Joe Bugner, Tyrell Biggs and Johnny Duplooy all beat him in percesion. This doesn't leave much to the imagination. I'll recant my earlier comment about Snipes as he did beat a prime Berbick and gave Holmes and Witherspoon fits. Marvis Frazier was actually a talented fighter who beat more named opponents than even some of the guys who actually DID win alpha titles in the 80's. He was just rushed into an elite ring too soon.

 

Good points but I watched Snipes v Witherspoon and felt it could have went either way. It was Tim's step up fight and he seemed to struggle like Tyson did with Tillis and Bowe did with Tubbs. It's an intresting match and the full rounds are on YouTube.

Leon did lose to Coetzee but seemed to find his mojo fora few fights before taking on Holmes, perhaps his form at that time was as good as anyone else around?

 

Yet Marvis beat bonecrusher prety soundly, at least as soundly as anyone else did. Marvis had amateur pedigree too, he beat Tubbs and Spoon. His win over Bugner was good too. That was a better bunger than the one who went on to beat Page, Tillis and Bey.

Absolutely.:good

Yes, Bey had as much going for him as anyone else. For example, how much more did Tubbs actually do before he got a shot at and won a belt? I am not boosting Holmes here but I think Truth Williams had as much going for him as Snipes, Berbick, bey and co did too?

 

Dokes beats Snipes by a close decision, especially in an 1982 NABF title fight.Snipes would shakes Dokes to his core, but Dokes was tough, decent hitter, and had the almost unmatched hand speed.Something like 115-113, 115-114, in points, 5-4-3, 6-5-1, or 7-5 in rounds.

 

Bey was lucky to beat Page in that fight, you could make a case for Greg winning, but his attitude cost him that fight, along with Bey being a tad bit more aggressive.

 

The guy was a mediocrity. and if truth be told, Greg Page wasn't all that good either.

 

But, at least Greg won the title, and besides Holmes, I think there were a couple of other heavys that didn't want to face him.