Dominance in Years

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  1. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Also, fighting less often gives less chance for upsets. I suppose this is also why the world heavyweight champions do quite well on the list.
     
  2. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    If it doesn't bother you that Wlad won't fight his brother, so he lets him hold a piece of the crown, you could include Wladimir Klitschko on your list right next to Lewis at 6 years. Also, Johnny Kilbane held the featherweight title back when there was only one of them from 1912-1923.

    There's a problem with your methodology, with your not needing the best fighters to defend a title against the best in their division, and them just having to be the best at their weight class. It's not actually based on anything but an eye test and a general opinion. If that were enough we wouldn't need the fighters to actually get into the ring and compete. It doesn't account for upsets like the recent Pacquiao/Marquez fight, or Tyson/Douglas, heck Ali was 8-1 going into his fight with Liston, he was a massive underdog to beat Foreman, etc. Anything can happen. People decline or get exposed. If you just look at Juan Manuel Lopez' record going into the fight with Salido it's no contest at all.

    If the best no longer have to fight the best to get the crown then you can award the title without a victory then take it away without a loss. Maybe you feel that Harry Wills was the best heavyweight of his time instead of Dempsey so you make him the champ over Dempsey without them ever having fought. Or if Ali is still champ but not the best fighter you cut his reign short and give it to Foreman or Holmes who were in their primes. Why wait until they gain a belt before you declare them dominant? Lots of guys didn't even get a chance to fight for a belt.

    Then another problem I see with breaking the reigns into years is that some guys fight once a year and some guys fight ten times a year. It's more fair to site the number of title defenses when determining the length of a reign.
     
  3. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    For your consideration, from http://fivedogs.tripod.com/misc.html

    Most consecutive successful defenses

    Division Name Title Years Defenses

    Heavyweight: Joe Louis World (1937-49) 25

    Cruiserweight: Anaclet Wamba WBC Title (1991-94) 7

    Light Heavyweight: Bob Foster World (1968-74) 14

    Super Middleweight: Nigel Benn WBC Title (1992-95) 9

    Middleweight: Carlos Monzon World (1970-77) 14

    Junior Middleweight: Gianfranco Rosi IBF (1989-94) 11

    Welterweight: Henry Armstrong World (1938-40) 19

    Junior Welterweight: Julio Cesar Chavez WBC/IBF (1989-94) 12

    Lightweight: Roberto Duran World (1972-79) 12

    Junior Lightweight: Brian Mitchell IBF/WBA (1986-91) 12

    Featherweight: Eusebio Pedroza WBA (1978-85) 19

    Jr. Featherweight: Wilfredo Gomez WBC (1977-83) 17

    Bantamweight: Orlando Canizales IBF (1988-94) 16

    Junior Bantamweight: Khaosai Galaxy WBA (1984-91) 19

    Flyweight: Miguel Canto WBC (1975-79) 14

    Junior Flyweight: Myung Woo Yuh WBA (1985-91) 17

    Strawweight: Ricardo Lopez WBC (1990-99) 21



    Longest uninterrupted title reigns

    Division Fighter Reign

    Heavyweight: Joe Louis 11 years, 7 months

    Cruiserweight: Anaclet Wamba 4 years, 10 months

    Light Heavyweight: Archie Moore 9 years, 2 months

    Super Middleweight: Chong Pal Park 3 years, 6 months

    Middleweight: Carlos Monzon 6 years, 9 months

    Junior Middleweight: Gianfranco Rosi 5 years, 2 months

    Welterweight: Felix Trinidad 8 years, 5 months

    Junior Welterweight: Julio Cesar Chavez 4 years, 8 months

    Lightweight: Benny Leonard 7 years, 8 months

    Junior Lightweight: Flash Elorde 7 years, 3 months

    Featherweight: Johnny Kilbane 11 years, 4 months

    Jr. Featherweight: Wilfredo Gomez 5 years, 10 months

    Bantamweight: Orlando Canizales 6 years, 5 months

    Junior Bantamweight: Khaosai Galaxy 7 years, 1 months

    Flyweight: Jimmy Wilde 7 years, 4 months

    Junior Flyweight: Myung Woo Yuh 6 years. 2 months

    Strawweight: Ricardo Lopez 9 years, 8 months