Dominic Cruz P4P Entry ??? .............

atsch **** sake. Honestly man, I think you're a ****ing tool to be honest.

You think I don't know that you don't walk into your 1st day of BJJ and learn how to perform a flying gogoplata?

Get lost man.

 

I think the Veach fight was impressive simply because Edgar was at a huge weight disadvantage and was still able to drop and submit Veach.

You didn't think the Sherk fight was impressive? He outboxed Sherk, stuffed his takedowns, and nearly had him out with a guillotine in the third. And how can you not be impressed by the Maynard fight? He rocked Maynard several times, put him in trouble with a guillotine, and even delivered a huge slam all after nearly getting stopped in the first. You are a tough one to please Popkins.

 

No BJ Penn? You have Shogun in there, Machida in there but no Penn?

Penn is the only person on that list (besides Silva) who has proved he can move up a weightclass and be effective. He lost a stylistic bad fight against Edgar (I scored the 1st for him), and then moved up and KO'd a top ten fighter and then had a draw with the #2 WW Fitch, who outweighed him by like 15lbs.

Shogun has lost to Forrest and Jones at his own natural weight. Machida has lost to Shogun and Rampage at his own natural weight.

 

Wow. Telling me something I knew when I was about 12. Brilliant, brilliant point thewinfella.

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Whereas you are a BJJ Zen Master, that much is obvious from your superb and not at all patently obvious posts on the subject.

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Go and wipe the drool off your chin, and maybe one day someone will explain to you that with (and I quote) "serious time and effort" a kickboxer can learn how to execute BJJ submissions from his back.

atsch

 

I think you continue to misunderstand my point.

So, so many times on this thread I have said I think Edgar is a superb fighter.

I really don't know how much clearer I can be about that.

I simply do not care for his style, because I believe he trains and strategizes and fights to win decisions. I have observed these tactics in more of his fights than I have not observed them. That's why I'm not a fan.

Frankie only became aggressive in the Maynard rematch because he knew Maynard took the opener by a couple of points. When Edgar is the one in control, he usually shows no appetite to finish the fight, just content to pitty-pat, score a couple of TDs, and wait for the UD to be announced.

I will never question his effectiveness. He's great at what he does. I just don't like what he does. That's my sensibility as a fighter and as a fan of combat sports.

 

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Way to agree with the post you disagreed with a page ago.

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I understand your point, I just don't agree with it.

You keep saying Edgar doesn't attempt to finish fights despite me listing occasions where he has in fact attempted to finish fights (even in fights where he was ahead on the scorecard). Now you can continue to brush off my examples or explain them away with silly explanations like "Edgar only becomes aggressive when hes behind on points", just know that your argument is based far more in fiction than fact.