Don George Vs Artur Beterbiev

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  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    My residual Catholic guilt won't allow to root for someone to be beaten to death, however Adonis is might overrule that inclination.
     
  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Yeah, and if even half the stuff floating around on him were a matter of public record and not just hearsay there would be a whole lynch mob demanding to see him thrown in with a savage puncher like Kovalev or Beterbiev to get judiciously KTFO. (sort of as there is with Stevenson, although, strangely, even that monster has defenders spouting 'he paid his debt to society' rhetoric or trivializing his acts :-( - so I guess George would still have fans too...)
     
  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    George and Stevenson are friends now.

    Donovan, in your last televised bout, which was on WealthTV, you came up short in a brutal battle with Adonis “Superman” Stevenson. What happened in that bout?

    It was a grueling twelve round war. Both of us were hurt, but in the fifth round he broke my ribs. I broke one and fractured another. I couldn’t breathe the entire fight. In the fifth round when he put me down, I couldn’t even lift my head, but I looked up and saw my fiancé and my mother and I didn’t want to quit. I’m not a quitter. It was actually written up as round of the year.

    What is you relationship like now with Stevenson?

    It was a great fight and Stevenson and I have a great relationship now. It’s kinda like what happened with Gatti and Ward. After a brutal war like that you grow to appreciate each other. I just spent a couple weeks in Detroit sparring with him to get ready for the fight with Lopez, so that was like rounds 13 to 80 (laughs). There isn’t any better southpaw to get sparring with than Stevenson, and for the last three weeks I realized how good he is and why I’m not at super middleweight anymore (laughs).

    Are you saying you would not fight Stevenson again?

    I never said that. I’ve never backed down from anyone. I’ll fight King Kong; I don’t care. And, after that fight they love me in Montreal and I love them. They have great fans out there, and I can’t wait to go back. I just got tired of being the little guy who always has to show all that heart. I want to be the bully (laughs).
     
  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Kinda like Gatti and Ward - except they were both sweethearts.

    This is more like a real-life Brotherhood of Evil Mutants. :!:
     
  5. Serge

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    lol

    Funny thing is George always comes across well in interviews. I've heard him speak numerous times on boxing podcasts and he seems like a good guy. Reading some of the stuff you've posted about him in this thread comes as a real shock.
     
  6. kovalevtheGoat

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    thats how he lures em in.
     
  7. Serge

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    Speaking of genuine nice guys though. Here's a couple of articles about Beterbiev.

    During his career, Marc Ramsay was fortunate to work with many talented boxers. But when it comes to Artur Beterbiev, it ignites.

    "Artur has no limit. It has a well above average speed and it is exceedingly hard, as hard as I led training. He has heavy hands and deploys his jab as much power as many lines other boxers of his level. They talk about a very disciplined guy who pays attention to every little detail. Artur, the technique is very important, "says Ramsay about Beterbiev (6-0, 6 KOs), who has an appointment with Jeff Page, Jr. (15-0, 10 KOs) Friday at the Quebec Coliseum.

    "It's a bit of a dream for a coach to work with him as a boxer," said Ramsay. "It is always very focused on what he has to do. In his life, he has two things: his family and his work. He gives 100% when it is at work and is always ready when the time comes to get in the ring. "

    Ramsay feels he has a particular boxer hands. However, it notes that it is important that the heavyweight keeps feet on the ground despite its potential.

    Ramsay said that the preparation of the 29 year-old Russian for his fight against Page (24 years) was very well. He could count on the presence of two training partners, including one he did not want to name, for strategic purposes, had a world ranking.

    "For this camp, Artur was not afraid to invest his own money. And it works. It is in a resplendent form. "

    ****yzing the style of the opponent Beterbiev, Ramsay noted that Page is a complete boxer. "It is very well balanced and there is not a lot of mistakes. It is physically strong and he moves well. And he has a good background in the amateurs. We have established a specific strategy. We'll have to make the rounds one by one and stay focused on the fight because Page is an opponent that can adjust to the speed, strength and almost all the tools a guy like Artur can possess. "

    Nothing will remove in Page, Ramsay says he is not the biggest challenge of his protege, who in his last duel, had to fight against Travis Cloud, a former world champion. "But Page is an American who has never known defeat. In boxing, there is a kind of psychology that when you have never tasted defeat, you put all your eggs in one basket because you do not have the option to let go of the struggle and the lose. It is therefore expected to have a guy who will give everything in the ring. "

    NOT AN AMATEUR GALA ...

    September 27, Beterviev spent the knockout to Cloud at the 38th second of the second round. Ramsay he had to work to bring him back to earth? "No," replied the coach.

    "Artur is not a lot who follows boxing. He can spend hours looking at boxing video or ****yze his opponents. But if I ask him to go to a gala, it will tell me no, that he prefers to remain with his family. When he faced Cloud, he did not even know that he was going against boxers. And his first instinct when we returned to the locker room after his victory was to launch me, "You told me that the guy was good." The fact that it does not follow boxing much that it does not take anyone lightly. For him, an opponent is an opponent. And it is always 100% ready. "

    "The fact that it does not follow boxing much that it does not take anyone lightly. For him, an opponent is an opponent. "
    Marc Ramsay, coach Artur Beterbiev.

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    In boxing, the category heavyweight (175 lb) offers us interesting day, especially because of boxers based in Montreal there are important pieces worldwide.

    Jean Pascal and Lucian Bute Adonis Stevenson have their legions of fans, and we found the Bernard Hopkins, Tavaris Cloud, Carl Froch, Mikkel Kessler and recently Sergey Kovalev ...

    Hopkins beats Pascal and bows before Kovalev; Bute and Froch demolishes gets banged by Kessler; Stevenson demolished Cloud ... and Artur Beterbiev beats too easily.

    Artur Beterbiev, 29, the new Montreal, twice world champion among amateurs, two-time Olympic medalist to win gold. Classic-style boxer, very straight, the European. He defeated Kovalev among fans. "It saved me in the arena ..."

    In 2015, it will take with this Chechen.

    I met him a year ago, shortly after his arrival. He told me that everything was fine, except he missed his family. He now lives in the West Island with his wife, three children - the youngest, Sophie, was born in Montreal - and his mother. Beterbiev to peace in the soul and can concentrate on his work.

    In a gym north of the city, he understands my questions, some French and some English, Russian and manager, Anna Reva, help finding words.


    His trainer, Marc Ramsey, describes it thus: "I want a boxer like him any coach. It is very disciplined and serious. He knows where he wants to go.

    "He's very intelligent. It has a university education in law and physical education. When I ask him some exercises, he asked me to explain why ...

    "He does not really like boxing. He never looks at the struggles of others, he studied videos of his and his opponents, that's all. He never talks about boxing, he still refuses to come to the gala at the Bell Centre.

    "He does not really like to fight either. He especially loves to train.

    "It is primarily a family guy. He prefers to stay at home. "

    Then the North American life, Mr. Beterbiev ...

    "I do not like being in North America. Rather, I see a mixture of Europe and America.

    "There's nothing that really surprises me. It's like I had imagined. Even the climate is the same. It's a little warmer here.

    "I like to see people of different cultures live in peace. I find it very beautiful. "

    Chechnya is something else, of course. The country was torn by a dirty war without mercy ...

    "I did not grow up in the street ... There were problems, but my parents saw that the children - three boys - are safe and do not lack anything.

    "Our village Khasavojust is a little away from everything. We saw passing airplanes and helicopters over our heads, but we never bombed. We have hosted many refugees. There were always women and children in our home. People who had lost everything. "

    Food side, Artur "never refused a pasta dish."

    "Like meat, I prefer veal. But I do not eat what I want, I eat what is good for my fitness.

    "My father died and when my mother arrived in Montreal, I took a little weight. It made her happy. "

    And Artur gives us the recipe zhizhik galinch Chechen national dish. Think of dumplings, stuffed meat ***** pasta, garlic, onion, according to his tastes. Served in a broth.

    "All Chechens love this dish. We have a tradition: after a wedding, the bride must prepare the galinch zhizhik to prove that she is a good wife. "

    Anna Reva accompanies and watches over the Beterbiev career in America. Artur brings him a chair so she moved in with us.

    She sees him as a "big teddy bear with kids who jump on him."

    "This is a very gentle and polite man. But before a fight in his dressing room, he became another person. It's fascinating. He does not see anyone or anything around him. "

    After his victory in less than two rounds against Tavaris Cloud, Beterbiev, surrounded by his excited clan, had spoken of a "fairly easy day's work."

    To his coach Ramsey: "You told me it was good."

    So ... Stevenson, Pascal, Froch, Kovalev ... Which is tougher?

    "I do not want to classify. To me they are all opponents, and boxing is very unpredictable. Anything could happen

    What do you think of the last fight Jean Pascal?

    "I did not understand, Pascal wanted to fight, and the other, I do not know what he was doing.

    "I do not know very well the world of professional boxing. I only know the people of Montreal and so far, for me, everything is okay. "

    Beterbiev will fight next Friday at the old Coliseum in Quebec. His opponent is a young rising star in the United States, Jeff Page (15-0-0, 10 KOs).

    Beterbiev will be the favorite, but ... boxing is very unpredictable.'

    And a short video

    http://fr.canoe.ca/sports/videos/beterbiev-le-russe-quebecois/3940776110001
     
  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    lol. Probably true.
     
  9. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Beterbiev or Kovalev will bring about their "Age Of Apocalypse":hey