Don`t count Bute out yet;circumstances of the desaster

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  1. aliviu_emilian

    aliviu_emilian Well-Known Member Full Member

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    A lot of people, including some of his, not many days ago, dedicated fans, say Bute is finished at highest level.Nothing more wrong.Even professionals like Sugar Ray ask questions like:How did Bute stay so much champion without knowing to take a punch?But this is false.

    Previously to the fight Bute had a an amateur carrier behind with 300 fights and 30 fights at professionals including ones with Berrio, Bika, Zuniga, Miranda recognized as hitters.Bute took a lot of shots.But what happened Saturday night? I see three factors:

    1.Met a warrior prepared like never for DO OR DIE and the biggest hitter he ever met.

    2.Was in an environment with pressure never sent before.Despite his declarions he did meet hostile crods in his carrier this was maybe the hardest environment he met.He said after match Froch was pushed from behind by thew crowd.

    3.Encountered problems who weakened him psichichly.As time as Froch entered in category 2 MONTHS EARLIER, BUTE STRUGGLED A DAY BEFORE TO MAKE THE WEIGHT.Besides, he had a toe infection a few weaks before the fight and a respiratory virose when he arrived in England.


    So, we have an accumulation of circumstances which made a big fight to look as a missmatch.

    Who thinks Bute won`t come back at hight level is wrong. Who thinks Bute won`t take his option for the rematch, also.Next spring, in Montreal, the surprise could be in other way.
     
  2. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    Bute hasn't made any excuses for his loss, I don't think you should either.
     
  3. aliviu_emilian

    aliviu_emilian Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don`t excuse his loss, just the manner it happened.Was clear from the beginning will be very hard for him to win.Bute is a gentelman.
     
  4. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    First a broken toe.... Now a toe infection?????
     
  5. 8count

    8count sidekick Full Member

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    :deal
     
  6. Squire

    Squire Let's Go Champ Full Member

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    I hope the guy bounces back because he came across as a class act, but it's hard to see how he can ever beat Froch. I expect he'd fare better against a different style of fighter. Even a better fighter like Ward. I don't think it's inconceivable that he can win again at the top level of the division
     
  7. dendy

    dendy no easy way out Full Member

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    Only bute will know if he can come back and be a force at SM. The beating he took could mean he will never be the same again. Depends on his mental state and his confidence.
    Equally i wouldn't be surprised to see him come back strong from this, however, I just don't see him ever being able to take enough punishment to beat froch in a potential re-match.

    If it was the case I don't have any time for him struggling to make weight. He knows the score in that he is a massive super middle, something he uses to his advantage. He has been tight at the weight before so maybe he needs to fight at a more natural 175lb.

    Berrio, Bika, Zuniga, Miranda are not what i would call heavy hitters. Miranda maybe but his power was more obvious at MW. Either way they are not on frochs level and as you can see it takes more than one decent shot to get bute out of there. Froch was hitting him with powerful combinations, something the other fighters were not good enough to do. Butes chin is not so bad, it's the fact that he reacts like someone scared when he is tagged and his legs don't do what he desires. Not good punch resistance so again maybe he would benefit from not having to cut so much weight.
     
  8. you spelled

    disasaeter wrong you moron

    rofl
     
  9. BatTheMan

    BatTheMan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I disagree. As a fan you should make excuses so you can continue to support your fighter. The more reasonable they seem the better. I, as a Kessler fan, know this.

    The fact that Bute himself doesn't make excuses is what matters. He didn't and he is a class act.
     
  10. aliviu_emilian

    aliviu_emilian Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I apologize for spelling: disaster not desaster.
     
  11. its ok bro

    I spelled it wrong too.
     
  12. On Topic

    Of course Bute can come back.

    No Bum can performed as well as he did against those C level fighters.


    Ya Ya I know they were all C Level fighters

    but did Sven Ottke look as good as Bute?

    No he did not.


    Bute looked wonderful against C Level opposition
    something other 'protected' fighters did not do


    I say he is def an elite fighter


    Styles make fights


    Froch's style was all wrong for Bute



    The cowardly **** Ward was the one to really ruin Bute

    cuz if coward Ward fought Bute

    Bute might have lost a boring UD...

    instead of being knocked out

    he might even have his moments
     
  13. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Claim down newbie...many if not most of our posters use english as a second or third tongue. As long as you know what they are tring to say is all that matters. This isn't class its a ****ing website for people that like to watch others get hit in the face for a living.
     
  14. bamboleo

    bamboleo Still Proud to be Butard Full Member

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    Batman bin Suparman!!




    I would never be able to take out of my head the fact that you called Kessler Superman.
     
  15. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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