Donaire: "Going after THE #1 in my division and no less"

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  1. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I wish he could. I'm with you, but this gbp and top rank rivalry is annoying
     
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    I1T2BOX Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why is everybody in such a rush to see Rigo get outclassed???
     
  3. twopiece

    twopiece Pugilistic Ambassador Full Member

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    I strongly agree with this. It only makes the Rigo fight better if the man with 10 pro fights gets some more impressive wins under his belt. Could Guillermo challenge Donaire now? Skillwise, yeah, it sure does look like it. But should the fight happen this soon? To me, no.

    Nobody wants to see this situation end up like another Juanma vs Gamboa (a fight which never happened due to it being stalled too long by the promoter + Juanma's 2X loss by KO to Salido). But this match-up is so different regarding professional experience.

    Donaire vs Rigondeaux is a good fight.. a little further down the road. I'd love to see it at some point. Both guys need to keep winning in order for it to be at its peak in terms of marketability.
     
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    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    You know you're my dude...but I have to ask, so are you saying that you believe Donaire and the Japaneese gentleman have better resumes than PBF?
     
  5. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Caballero never belonged on any top 10 list in my opinion and I still strongly disagree with you on Vazquez's overall quality and the impressiveness of Donaire's win for a vacant belt over a guy who had just lost. I also wonder what Mijares had done to deserve a P4P fight, as Donaire and Top Rank were completely prepared to make that fight until HBO said no. Would he also have been a better quality opponent than Rigondeaux?

    I don't particularly see the significance of the name/draw distinction here. If we're calling Donaire the biggest name below 135 though, I don't see why it's wrong to hold him to a higher standard when it comes to opponent selection given the many more opportunities for quality fights such a status carries with it.
     
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    lester proctor Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's easy to say that after the fact, it took Mathebula to expose him, lol.

    The significance is this: Donaire will get you on hbo, for likely your career best purse.
     
  7. pejevan

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    Fight tape junkie?

    Sp what exactly did ypu see in Baldomir? He is featherfisted, slow as mo0lasses, one-dimesional to even warrant anything. Aside frpm defeating Judah, whp actually is always losing to anyone despite his so perceive sp[eed or talent?
     
  8. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    Donaire was supposed to be the fodder for Darchinyan.

    Not in the same class as Rigo asking for Donaire fight.

    At the end of the day, Donaire had fought Nishio, Mathebula, hopefully Moreno while Rigo beats the living **** out of Teon Kennedy.

    If Rigo can not fight Donaire, can he at least fight a better opposition? OOOOPPPPS, ?of course, everybody is ducking him except those litany of bums in his record. He cannot even rematch Cordoba who is in his own organization.
     
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    *****s should not be riding the "ducking" bandwagon!!!!

    It is ironic.
     
  10. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :think Depends. What I was saying in this thread is that it's basically the same dudes in here that are dogging Donaire for fighting Nishioka and some others that he has fought but have argued tooth and nail over some of the chumps Floyd has fought in the past who have been nowhere near some of the fighters Donaire has gotten **** over fighting.

    Floyd is as talented a fighter as I have ever seen, but to me he is a waste. What's talent when it isn't tested to it's fullest? A waste in my eyes. Does Floyd have the more outstanding NAMES on his resume? Damn right he does. But upon closer inspection most of those names mean **** because almost all of them were well past prime and a shell of what they were. Seriously, to me he just comes off as a Calzaghe-like fighter. He may have an undefeated legacy when he retires, but is that due to how good he was or the soft comp. he faced? Not to mention, the same dudes here banging on about Donaire's competition are many of the same ones banging on about Calzaghe's bull **** opposition. I can't stand hypocrites but a lot of these dudes are a different breed altogether.
     
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    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And Donaire gets **** for fighting Mathebula. Say what you want about the guys skills, but Mathe is a world class fighter and was at least 5 inches taller than Donaire, not to mention had a much bigger frame. When was the last time Floyd faced a fighter that much bigger than him? With that big a size disparity comes risk, an obvious reason Floyd didn't fight guys like PWilly and Margo.
     
  12. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I dont have much problem with his resume. But he has no reason not to fight Rigondeaux when his last fight was Mathebula. Donaire claims he's trying to unify and that's why he fought Math. Well Rigo has a belt also.
    Then Donaire says Rigo has no fanbase and brings no money. Well who the hell is Mathebula? And Rigo has to prove himself and beat somebody? Who did Mathebula beat?

    That's what I'm getting at. And if his plan is to clean out the division one by one with Vazquez Jr, Mathebula, Nishiokai, Arce and whoever and then Rigo, then that's is perfectly fine. But from the looks of it, it doesn't seem like he wants Rigondeuax at all.
     
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    i like donaire. but he needs to accept rigos challenge. i wonder if arum or donaires bi--hy wife have something to do with it? :think
     
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    Did you ever stop to think that Arum is protecting Rigondeax FROM Donaire?

    not the other way around?

    geez
     
  15. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    :lol: no I didn't think of that. I used to be one of those people saying Donaire wasn't ducking him, but over the past year, I've started to realize that and it's from Donaire's own actions and his own quotes.

    Just listen to his interview with Max after the Mathebula fight.

    "I plan on unifying with 3 belts and then moving up. Yeah, Nishiokai is can be next definitely."

    Then it's Donaire who gives all types of reasons not for the fight not happen.