Donaire: ''He wasn't better then me tonight'' ''He didn't do enough to beat me''

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  1. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    Punchstats don't really tell the full story of a contest, but he did lose the fight convincingly
     
  2. doug.ie

    doug.ie 'Classic Boxing Society' Full Member

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    thats correct too.
     
  3. Uncle Rico

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    Those fights were dominations in their own sense, yes, but you can skin a cat more ways than one. Rigo skinned his via a chess match - something Donaire himself opted to engage in. Rigo's countering was superior. Rigo's defense was sharper. Rigo's punches were more accurate. Rigo just generally looked far more comfortable and in control. All of his rounds (9 at the absolute very least if you're being generous to Donaire) were clear-cut rounds in which he didn't allow Donaire to do anything meaningful.

    That, in my eyes, is a schooling.
     
  4. Dirt99

    Dirt99 Active Member Full Member

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    Im most definitely no expert on scoring but was amazed when the HBO team said that a lot of the press had it a close fight. Thought Rigo dominated the fight and Donaire only really had success when Rigo decided to take the round off.

    Donaire seemed lethargic, think he expected to just blow rigo away.
     
  5. |A|C|S|

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    It was a schooling, if Donaire didnt get that knockdown it woulda probably been a Rigo round, which means 11-1 but i gave it 10-2 when that 2nd round i shoulda really gave to Rigo
    No way Donaire landed 89 punches thats fake
     
  6. doug.ie

    doug.ie 'Classic Boxing Society' Full Member

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    cant believe these posts....a schooling is has already been described in this thread....rigo won well on points but that was no schooling or domination.

    would you people who say it was a schooling consider winning 8/9/10 rounds of a 12 round fight automatically a schooling ??
     
  7. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    If you win 9 or 10 rounds clearly whilst displaying full superiority in the type of fight it's being fought at (a counter-punching chess match), then yes, I would regard that as a schooling. Especially if those 2 or 3 rounds that you lost -- bar the knockdown one -- are rounds that could have gone either way.
     
  8. doug.ie

    doug.ie 'Classic Boxing Society' Full Member

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    ok...each to their own....but it was not a schooling or domination for me......although rigo won well.
     
  9. SkillspayBills

    SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen Full Member

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    For me i had Rigo winning 11 of 12 rounds. If people want to call it a schooling they can feel justified enough to go with that and vice versa.
     
  10. Hamas

    Hamas Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah but what does the term dominate mean to you?
     
  11. pathmanc1986

    pathmanc1986 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Doug, a schooling to me isnt a beating as has been suggested - but a mind **** on your opponent.

    Nonito look baffled by what was before him. He simply didnt know what to do. Couple that with him being read by Rigo and countered would leave me to believe that Donire left the ring no wiser than when he entered it.
     
  12. Uncle Rico

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    Yeah, it depends on what you like to see, really. Which is why Donaire at the moment doesn't feel like he's lost. In his eyes Rigo was probably being too negative and he doesn't feel like someone has just beaten him. Probably feels pick-pocketed, more than anything.
     
  13. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    To me, it means to be in complete control of something to the point where the opponent's chances of altering things, is very low. And you can be in control in many ways more than one - overpowering, outworking, outsmarting, etc. Rigo, in my eyes, done the latter.
     
  14. Uncle Rico

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    I guess there are better words to use than 'dominate' - which gives the impression of ruthlessness, overpowering, and bullying. So yes, Rigo didn't do that. So I suppose a more appropriate word would be, I don't know :think, 'schooling'?

    :good
     
  15. Scotty321

    Scotty321 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Been listening to bad advice probably. His corner felt is was 50/50 and anyone on the Top Rank payroll probably told him he should have got the nod.