Donaire - Martinez, April 18 on PPV!!! - is Arum for real?

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  1. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So far Top Rank did 2 PPVs, the Pavlik/Cotto mismatch doubleheader and the Chavez Jr. Tijuana card, and Arum has already lined up Donaire-Martinez in The Philippines on April 18, for PPV, negotiating the Pavlik-Mora PPV for the Summer.

    Is he absolutely lost his f* mind? Donaire-Martinez on PPV? So far HBO did ZERO PPVs, the lined up LW tournament is only broadcasted by it, the first and only HBO produced PPV for the first half of 2009 is Hatton-Pacquiao. Arum did two PPVs so far and has two ahead of us for the same period, which is four.

    After all the BS talk how he hates PPV and HBO putting fights on that system, he's pulling this **** ripping off every single cent of the economy-affected Latino, Filipino and hardcore US fanbase. With his support of 'innocent' Antonio Margarito and these 4 PPVs, I must say he's the single worst thing for boxing right now.


    Is he for real? :think :-(
     
  2. FINITO

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    It sucks but this fight was always supposed to be on PPV.. Old news...

    Orginally, Donaire/Montiel was picked up by SHOWTIME but when that fight came apart, they dropped it.. So now Arum has no choice but to put this on PPV..
     
  3. BigBone

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    Had no choice but to rip-off the hardcore base because Showtime found it a **** card, oh poor old man! Seriously now.

    Old news or not, this thread is about the ridiculous, disrespectful treatment of our sport and it's fans by Bob Arum. I simply can't believe when HBO, Showtime and even Golden Boy is looking for competitive ****, limited and quality PPV (the LW card originally looked awesome and GBP has risky fights like Dzinziruk-Kirkland, Kotelnik-Ortiz coming up on free HBO), Arum is pulling this **** off, hurting the very sport that was the big thing in the last depression era, treating it as it was an elitist entertainment for paying customers.
     
  4. Arriba

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    I would be upset but at this point I'm close to ambivalent. I mean if he can't get it on Showtime or HBO or Versus or FNF...where else can it go but PPV?

    Arum has realized he can feed people chicken **** and call it chicken salad and they'll eat it happily...so at this point, you gotta blame the fans paying top dollar for it.
     
  5. BigBone

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    So blame the fans for falling for it and not being experts to judge the quality of a PPV card, buying Arum's **** as chicken sandwich? U serious?

    Klitschko-Gomez did better ratings in the much smaller German market than all 2009 HBO and Top Rank PPV cards combined, and it did so because they always reached out for the general public never ripping off the viewer to buy the **** to watch it on his own freaking TV, therefore they never lost a single viewer. With these BS PPVs, Arum reaches out to the very last bunch of faithful paying custumers, who get feed with Pavlik-Rubio, Pavlik-Mora and Cotto-Jennings, but there are less and less of them. So I ask you: can u blame them?
     
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    it should be donaire-montiel but montiel backed-out. now we are left with this fight. it's not too bad since solis-viloria is on the undercard. though i agree that it's not ppv worthy, it's a chance for some donaire fans to get a glimpse of him. we would be getting it on free tv here but probably delayed and i might watch it live. :D
     
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    Hey this card is lightyears ahead of some trash like Cotto/Jennings PPV so i don't know why ya are complaining.. I mean it's those fickle minded fans who are purchasing crap like Cotto/jennings when they were no even competitive fights..

    At least MArtinez is a promising prospect and i expect this fight to be a fairly competitive brawl... Donaire/martinez is a great fight..

    Then there's Solis/Vilora which is another significant fight in the lower weight division.. Depending on which Viloria shows up, this could turn into a war!!!!

    Donaire/Martinez card shits all over Cotto/jennings.. And i know a whole bunch of people bought that trash.
     
  8. PH|LLA

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    old news buddy

    Donaire is probably what will make me tip the boat in favour of puchasing this card.
     
  9. Arriba

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    Uh yeah.

    If you're stupid enough to continue to drink from a poisoned well then hey, you're a ****ing moron. If Arum can rip you off continuously without worrying about any backlash then it's your own damn fault basically.
     
  10. BigBone

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    So if the only way to follow the sport you love on live TV is PPV, and you buy the **** because it's the only way to get what you're looking for, you are the ****ing moron, and Arum has nothing to do with boxing is so low that no TV is interested in a supposedly great card like this? So u say fans are responsible for the **** state of boxing (because they're willing to drink from poisoned wells), not promoters pulling ever-weakening PPVs (selling the poisoned water as fountain of life over and over again)?
     
  11. Arriba

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    If people don't BUY IT, Arum learns his lesson. Simple as that.

    If you keep buying shitty events then yeah, You go hand in hand with Arum, Goosen and the ilk.
     
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    in Arum's defense :

    there are 2 options here, either the fight is not televised at all, or its on PPV. I prefer the latter.
     
  13. BigBone

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    Logical, but problematic. With less income from PPVs, the REAL source of boxing money unfortunately, the less there is to spend on quality fights, so you get even shittier fights and even shittier buys, losing potential viewers who never get the chance to see the new prospects as they stopped buying or never did that in the first place. By the time the promoters learn this lesson, there won't be even an MMA/Boxing column, just MMA, and no viewers interested in the top guys they have never heard of.

    And that's why I dare to blame Arum, pushing this sick sport to the last stage.
     
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    Yup...

    It's a business decision.
     
  15. BigBone

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    This might be the reality, but don't you think the Bob Arums pulled boxing down so low that the only alternative to televise Donaire-Martinez if Showtime is not interested is to put it on independent PPV? Don't you think these very PPVs exiled boxing from mainstream to borderline popular, expensive, elitist sport?

    The thread is not really about the Donaire-Martinez PPV itself, but this stupid situation with promoters digging themselves in a deeper and deeper hole, with Arum being the busiest digger with all his BS PPVs, while others seem to learn. Donaire-Martinez on PPV is just an example how deep the hole is.