Donaire wants Mares next, Rigo if that can't happen.

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  1. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He has another year with them, by which point Donaire will probably be past the division and Mares would be facing an even greater physical disadvantage.
     
  2. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    You just don't pay attention. Not my fault. This **** is just too damned obvious not to miss.
     
  3. purephase

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    :lol: What is so damned obvious is that you've simply fabricated a narrative to make Arum's demand look the least bit reasonable here. Nothing he's said has indicated that he was open to discussing his demand in greater depth after the Arce fight, nor that it has any connection whatsoever to the Mayweather negotiations (wherein, let me remind you, Arum himself was the first one trying to elbow Golden Boy out).
     
  4. Beenie

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    The number one reason why the chances of Donaire-Mares getting made is so bleak is that Fossil Bob stubbornly refuses to work with GB.

    This being the same reason why a fight between Donaire and Cruz probably will never happen.

    And I could be mistaken but I thought Moreno stated that he intended to move back down to BW after losing to Mares?
     
  5. purephase

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    Moreno's GB too, so that rules that fight out as well, though I think you're right about his intentions.
     
  6. Beenie

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    :thumbsup

    Okay, I wasn't certain about his promotional status.
     
  7. marianass

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    I bet it will be Donaire vs Rafael Marquez, Rafa meets all the requirements, he is old, almost 100% shot and it's a good name for Donaire's resume
     
  8. Hermit

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    You think it is mere coincidence that Arum's 'terms' were exactly what was offered to Pac? REALLY? :roll:
     
  9. purephase

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    Yes I do since terms like that have come up constantly between the companies and between the companies and smaller rivals. That was the initial demand for Martinez-Chavez and Martinez-Cotto from Top Rank, that was the demand for Alvarez-Gomez from Golden Boy (when the two sides were at peace), and that was the way Lara-Martirosyan played out as well. The difference here of course is that Mares is on a similar level to Donaire within the US and is not someone Golden Boy can reasonably be expected to simply step aside of.
     
  10. Beenie

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    I wouldn't dismiss the prospects of such a fight.

    But considering that he just lost to Mijares - and that Fossil Bob has already once tried to match Mijares against Donaire only for the networks to reject it - I'd say that Christian stands in a much more favorable position than his defeated foe of landing this fight.
     
  11. Hermit

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    Lara-Martirosyan was TR winning the purse bid. Nothing at all to discuss there. Martinez-Chavez and Martinez-Cotto? You sure you want to bring those up. Even if true, and I don't know that it is, both fights went on as co-promotions. Dibella raved about how easy it is to work with Arum. You sure you got the facts straight? Poor examples of how this is suddenly Arums 'final' offer.
     
  12. purephase

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    Martinez-Cotto never transpired for precisely this reason and Arum tried to argue that it was Cotto who didn't want co-promotion. And for Martinez-Chavez, it took DiBella giving options to get the fight made. And that wasn't meant to make it sound like Arum's final offer in this instance, only to illustrate that you stand on poor ground to be connecting this to Mayweather-Pacquiao on the basis of the no co-promotion demand alone.
     
  13. Beenie

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    He raved the opposite about Arum far more and louder in the past.

    And it's not that Arum won't work with other promoters, he prefers not to - to the extent of exhausting all other options first. When it's convenient for him to make promotional collaborations, that's when he'll actually try and do so.

    BTW, I realize that every promoter will supersede their own company's prosperity before assisting another with theirs, but the extent that it has gotten with TR is really ridiculous, and shameful to the sport.
     
  14. Hermit

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    Cotto has had his own promotion company for quite a while and would 'co-promote' on his own TR cards so it is possible that Cotto didn't want it. I NEVER heard those demands for Martinez/Chavez and I followed those developments pretty carefully. I simply don't know about Cotto/Martinez. This is really all about context. Right down to the 'set price' though. I'm pretty sure Arum was throwing GBP's attempt to have Mayweather with Pac back door a deal in their face. If you ever listen to Schaefer speak about Arum it is clear Arum is WAY deep under his skin and Arum doesn't miss a trick to irk him even further.
     
  15. Hermit

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    Arum has a legitimate gripe with the smaller promoters. TR and GBP do a lot to foster the 'minor league' of boxing so to speak. Why is it fighters like Paul Williams and Sergio Martinez couldn't sell tickets for most of their careers? Their promoters sat back and sucked off the TV tit and expected HBO/SHOW to do their promotion for them. They think they get lucky and sign a good fighter and their job is over.