Donaire wants Mares next, Rigo if that can't happen.

No it was clearly Arum who didn't want to co-promote and that's what DiBella said as well; Top Rank offered a $2.5 million buy-out and after DiBella doubled that offer Top Rank moved on. DiBella repeated that that was the obstacle to having Margarito, Cotto, or Chavez fighting Martinez around the time of the Barker bout as well.

 

Martinez is the wrong ethnicity and age for Top Rank and Golden Boy, as they have no measurably better track record in promoting guys from similar backgrounds. Making his status a matter of promotional laziness is completely wrongheaded.

 

I wonder if Hermit would be defending Bob Arum if Donaire was with GBP and Mares was with Top Rank?

 

Williams was a Haymon client. Promotion is completely external to whether or not such fighters receive paydays or can get fights.

 

They (GB,TR) don't have that gripe with each other (which is really more to the point of this discussion)

BTW, it's my opinion that Arum would have also had his troubles promoting Martinez and Williams simply because his idea of promoting is to exploit a fighter's cultural fan-base. That being said, he could have matched those guys against a variety of fighters in his stable who had good fan support which would have in turn elevated Martinez and Williams if/when they got those opportunities..But I digress.

 

TR's refusal to participate in Showtime's BW tourney is more of a direct example of who's at fault for these fights not happening.

And it's just one citation of many of TR's monopolistic philosophy getting in the way of making sensible fights.

 

This being the reason why you excuse TR's refusal to participate in the BW tourney?

And to go down this digression, it's my opinion that tourney's are a wonderful idea and believe that there should be more of them simply because there is no real semblance of a functional ranking system in this sport. The ABC's undermine each others rankings, and the promoters exploit this deficiency. Tournaments provide a clear understanding of who the best is, period.

 

his argument is that fighters don't get to make as much money this way.

Tournies are obviously the way to go, make the best fight the best, etc but because of the HUGE income disparities in a sport like boxing, it is the reason why promoters like to build up their own hyped fighters/ protect them

 

I'm not convinced that this has to be the case.

In theory, making better fights ought to be able to generate more interest which should in entail more revenue. Tournaments provide the opportunities of making better fights.

Lazy and unimaginative promoting is the issue here.

 

I have to disagree.

The fact that lesser fighters can be such big money generators is the more result of promotion rather than underlying talent.

Chavez Jr, Alvarez, vs Andre Ward

You can make a star out of the winner of a tournament, and you can also make a star out of feeding a man lesser fighters, and cultivating public perception of this fighter through effective promotion.

Which of the two methods devalues a promoter's assets more significantly? A tournament, since even if its held witnin a promoter's own stable, the casual public would more or less follow winner.

It's the subjectivity and perception of a fighter's talent that promoters cash out on.