Clearly not, as Honeyghan owned Curry that night! The night where The Cobra was considered by some the finest in the world, and by many second only to the Marvelous one... Curry was very much primed.
And you have PROOF POSITIVE that this is what Hagler was planning?Or is it as you said that most people believed this?
When Curry lost toHoneygan it was a huge upset. At the time he was considered possibly the best pound for pound fighter in the world. His victories over Starling, his crushing of McCrory were so impressive many thought he was here to stay. We should have known something was up with him by the way he basically quit in that fight. He just packed it in ... obviously he would never be the same.
Hagler/HearnsII was very much pencilled in after their fights with Mugabi and Shuler; but then his arrogance turned it all on its head, by announcing his comeback.
That's true, but no one knows if those things actually were worse for Curry at that time; they just assumed it must've been just because he lost. For all we know, he was no more "weight drained" than he was for any fight he won before that.
No, I don't have proof positive (I didn't say I did!!) but yes thats what a lot of people in boxing believed would happen at the time (which is what I said in my post). Hagler-Hearns II was a cert to happen though. I'm guessing you're a Hagler fan....?
ESB ALL Time Welterweight Rankings Poll: 1. 1049 Sugar Ray Robinson (41) 2. 524 Sugar Ray Leonard 3. 322 Henry Armstrong 4. 301 Jose Napoles 5. 275 Kid Gavilan 6. 207 Emile Griffith 7. 174 Tommy Hearns 8. 129 Luis Rodriguez 9. 111 Barbados Joe Walcott 10. 87 Mickey Walker 11. 66 Roberto Duran 12. 53 Carmen Basillo 13. 47 Charles Burley 14. 42 Jack Britton 15. 39 Tommy Ryan (1) 16. 26 Sam Langford (1) 17. 25 Pernell Whitaker 18. 24 Don Curry 19. 21 Jimmy Mclarnin 20. 19 [tie] Felix Trinidad 20. 19 [tie] Barney Ross 22. 15 Peter Jackson 23. 12 Ted Kid Lewis 24. 11 Oscar De La Hoya 25. 10 [tie] Jack Dempsey 25. 10 [tie] Pipino Cuevas 27. 8 Miguel Cotto 28. 7 Sugar Shane Mosley 29. 5 [tie] Wilfred Benitez 29. 5 [tie] Carlos Palomino 31. 4 Marlon Sterling 32. 3 Aaron Davis 33. 2 [tie] Isufu Quartey 33. 2 [tie] Jose Lopez 35. 1 Floyd Mayweather Jr. That's a damn solid list. Honeyghan is nowhere to be found. Hell, Aaron Davis even made it on the scoreboard. So obviously the majority doesn't believe Honeyghan beat Curry at his best or he'd damn sure be rated somewhere. Curry was a shell of his best at welterweight when he fought Honeyghan. Honeyghan's future results (unspectacular) kind of backs that up too. Just for perspective, I don't make excuses for Curry vs McCallum. I don't write it off as a lucky punch. I believe Curry would've had problems with his eye closing late in the fight and I also believe that some body work by McCallum was going to affect Curry eventually. But for Honeyghan, no way was he as good as or better than Curry. I'd liken it to Richie Sandoval beating a faded Jeff Chandler.
Funny cause Mills Lane saw Curry in between bouts and said he was not controling his weight. Curry was drained in the Honeyghan bout simple as that.And Honeyghan DECLINED a rematch with Curry years latter at jr.middle.
Starling put big mouth Honeyghan in his place anyhow. Don Curry had already moved up in weight had'nt he? but decided to go back down to fight Honeyghan, even though his manager told him not to, that is what i heard. Curry did not have to be the best of shape to beat McCroy though did he? its not like it was a grueling long fight lol
Yeah i've got a qulaity photo in a book of the Bumphus one. I've actually got Bumphus vs Hatcher on vid as well. Just thought i'd add that!
loved Lloyd, hence my nickname here on the forum Always busy and a chip on his shoulder the size of a London dubbledeckerbus
Donald was hurt by his weight problems against Lloyd, though give Lloyd credit, he took advantage, and was a good fighter.But if that fight with Milton had lasted, McCrory may have beaten him.Donald should seek out Ray even today, and whip his ass.