Donald Curry Vs Oscar De La Hoya @ 147

I'am not so sure that Curry's heart is in question here, OK after the Honeyghan hammering & the shocking KO by McCallum obviously would have some traumatic effect especially when he was well favored in both fights.

But Curry was a superb boxer with excellent defense & counter punching ability & power, he was the man at 147 & when he fought Honeyghan all i can say is i've never ever seen Honeyghan fight that good before or after the Curry hammering. Lloyd's speed of counter shocked Curry who clearly may have underestimated an opponant who seized his chance for glory. I just don't see DLH ever using the similar stratergy employed by Lloyd & as we are talking about all things being equal here then to me this will be a schooling by Curry as DLH style IMO is tailor made for a smart fast powerfull counter puncher such as Curry. It'll be a tough fight without doubt but for me Curry will always have the last word as DLH's Jab will get him absolutly no where & if anything he'll be picked off repeatedly as he presses the fight.

You've got too have the ability to swarm Curry & get onto his chest without being caught on the way in as Curry also had fabulous balance & footwork & his timing of a punch was sublime much like you see in Mayweather today & the other approuch to Curry is the way Honeyghan did it by using rapier counters then jumping on him & letting 2/3 go then bouncing out & i just don't see DLH ever being able to adopt that statergy or even having the ability to employ it. Curry by UD.

 

Yeah i was thinking the same thing Curry and Julian Jackson same type of fightersatsch WTF

 

I can see a hth matchup at welter going either way but Curry was no longer the same fighter at JM. No way was he a better JM than ODLH. IMO this should not even be up for debate.

Oscar was more devastating in the lighter divisions but i think he became an all around better fighter at Welter. :think Welter might have been his best division, but JW is where he would have probably peaked had he stood there longer, his power fell of a little at Welter but he was still hitting hard,just not the monster puncher he was at lw.

 

Oscar was not a better technical boxer than Milton McCroy as good as Oscar's jab was,Miltons was better and he had more power and better handspeed,Skill wise McCroy was better than Starling,he wasnt better defensively nor did he have a better chin.

 

I do not see that. Milton was overrated a little. At the time Thomas Hearns was the great Kronk fighter and Tommy's appeal helped Milton by people thinking he was the next great Emanual Steward Kronk fighter. but he did not have the power of Tommy or the jab or the reach. Hearns was 78 and Milton only 73. Tommy would have beaten Curry at welterweight with his jab and stopped him in the mid rounds, and Oscar would have won a decision in my mind.

 

There is a very very short list that can beat a prime Curry,if your name isnt SRR,SRL,Hearns,maybe,Duran,Forrest,Benitez then its not you,and that includes Mayweather,Pac,Sweet Pea,Mosely,Oscar,Trinidad ect and many others.

 

atsch Damn that Crack is a mutha****er! Mccory is not even on the same level as ODLH his jab might have been longer and he had more range but not better, as for power Mccory high ko% dropped off when he stepped up his competition, i dont think he hit as hard as ODLH,and no way in hell did his handspeed compare. Starling was a better fighter than Mccory. Mccory was a pretty good fighter but far from great. I can name a helluva alot of guys that would have beat him. Id bet that Luis Collazo would be real competetive with McCory.


PS are you related to McCory?

 

True he wasnt a Hearns a much lesser Hearns,but even that is better than nearly everyone,but he still had a very good jab and good power in both hands and he was a very decent body puncher,no way was Oscar beating a prime Curry,no way!:nono

 

I never said he was better than Starling,nor have i said he was great,his jab was better than ODH,and he did hit harder than ODH,I think a lot of you are in love with Delahoya because he fought everyone,but lets remember he didnt win any of them and i doubt McCroy would have gotten his ears jabed off like ODH did against Sturm,ODH is super overrated at Welter and Jr.Middle.

 

He didnt win any big fights? How bout Prime Vargas,Whittaker(norobbery),Quartey,Tito,Mosley II. Chavez was past it but still a very good fighter at the time and this was a huge fight. Felix Sturm:think Hey if you wanna pull out bad performances by great fighters i can make a list a mile long of even ring immortals who lost to guys they never should have.

Bottom line for as tough as Colin Jones was ODLH would have never gone life and death with him, ODLH would have taken care of him the first time with no one wanting to see a rematch.

 

The Tito fight he ran,he should'nt have won,and he didnt win the Quartey fight that was a gift,so was the Whitaker fight and Sweet Pea was past it,ok so he won the Vargas fight,but your comment is true about immortals losing to guys they shoud'nt have.The Jones fight was around the time when Curry was really struggling to make WW,ODH is a very good fighter no doubt but he lost all of his big fights except the Vargas fight,and he may have got robbed out of the 2nd Mosely fight,but he wasnt in "The Cobras" league.

 

He still schooled Tito and no way did he deserve to lose the fight 3 bad rounds while winning the rest does not warrant losing a decision. I thought he pulled out the Quartey fight at the end of the 11th had ODLH one point behind. 2 or 3 point round(depending on how you scored the 12th) makes him a close winner. Sweet Pea turned back the clock in that fight but didnt do enough to win it this was also Oscars 1st fight at Welter so this was a big win. Jones-Curry:huh You must mean Mccory-Curry cause Curry stopped Jones early. If Mccory did have trouble making weight the 1st time he had a rematch and the fight still could have gone either way, Jones proved his equal despite being 6inches shorter.

I feel we have gotten of topic though i do agree Curry-Odlh is a pretty even match(although i lean toward ODLH) at JM ODLH handles Curry and stops him.

 

**** me, Pea used to have some controversial opinions

 

Are you talking about the Jackson,Curry fighting alike comment? THat was crazy, sounds like something Frank and Frank would say

 

Oscar above 140 seemed to struggle more and the power in his left hook left a little, but he had that special quality that Leonard had and all greats have to pour it on when he has to and eek out a win. Curry had the great skills and counterpunching, but his will to win was always questioned when things got tough. I do not think Curry would be able to set up Oscar for the left hook like he did Milt, and Oscar jab would be just as good as Donalds. Oscar would not win the fight like Lloyd did but he would be able to win a decision down the stretch with his heart and jab. Curry's skills were good, but not as great as people think. And the McCallum knockout was a great setup by Mike. Faking the punch to the body and coming upstairs.