Donovan "Razor" Ruddock vs. George Foreman in 1991

yeah but he did have youth on his side, and a prime ruddock is not briggs or savarese,

an old tyson ko'd savarese easy but ruddock took his bombs in 2 fights...

yes foreman may be naturally stronger but doesnt anyone ask why did foreman not any of the big strong guys in his comeback,


also everyone talks about ruddock eating foreman's power, lets see how foreman reacts when he eats one of ruddock's hook/uppercuts hahaha


but i guess a lot of guys think that foreman fought mostly blown up cruiseweights by accident and also by accident didnt fight any of the big strong guys....


and all these accidents have nothing to do with the fact that he liked walking down and bulling oppentents...

 

No, you're right.
Foreman ducked the dangerous fighters as much as he could.

But we are imagining IF he had to fight Ruddock in 1991, what would happen.

If it were Bowe or Lewis against Foreman, I think they'd win for sure. Perhaps by KO even.
But Ruddock fought dumb and neglected his tools by 1991, and that lessens his chances considerably.

 

My money would be on "smart", experienced, relaxed and cagey. Not on high-strung, two gears and good at taking an ass-whipping.

Look for Foreman's left jab to take him to Jerusalem. :thumbsup

 

Ruddock had a great left hook, but it might have been a little overrated from the Dokes fight. Awesome knockout. But Ruddock's chin collapsed in a few fights mainly Lewis. I think George stops him in 5 rounds or so in a great fight. George might have to fight through one of those great left hooks of Ruddock to win. This fight would have been maybe a bit too grueling for George even if he won.

 

Agreed !!!!!

 

Ruddock could UD Foreman. I don't know, Ruddock took a lot of punches. If Lewis could know him silly, Foreman could make him comatose.

If it was the Ruddock who was actually a decent boxer before becoming unhealthily possessed/crazy in love with his "bash" I'd pick him for sure.

Ruddock gets some terrific blows in, even staggers him with an underrated right. But gets hit too many times until the wrong punch knocks him unconscious. Maybe 8 rounds, and Foreman wouldn't be too pretty at the end of it.

 

Foreman wasn't even close to being as fast Lennox was. He might stun Ruddock and possibly stagger him for a second but he's not beating Ruddock, especially not the way you claim he would.

Ruddock would pulverize Foreman. It would look pretty ****in sad and far worse than the Stewart fight if Foreman makes it to the end. And I doubt he would.

 

I completely agree about Foreman being a caveman compared to Lewis. But look at how much Ruddock got hit, my friend.

Yes, George could be slow as molasses, but he did tend to land once in awhile. And he definitely hit harder than Lewis, especially with the left but he was heavier with the right.

I concede your point about the speed, I just wonder if you mostly commented on that part of my post and are ignoring Ruddock's shaky defense.

All respect, my friend.

 

Rudduck by decision. I'd say prime Foreman takes him out in a flashy slugfest but this Foreman ? No

 

No I definitely agree with a lot of your post. Ruddock got tagged and dropped a few times in his career. It's just 40 something George Foreman wasn't as good as some on here claim. During his comeback I rooted hard for the guy in every fight and wept when he beat Moorer. I just don't think he beats a guy like Ruddock at that stage.

Ruddock went through 19 rounds of hell with your favorite fighter, who was a level above comeback Foreman. I just can't envision Foreman walking Ruddock down or pushing him in range enough to knock him out. It would have to be a single bomb that lands and Ruddock was durable enough to withstand single shots by Foreman no matter how powerful.

 

I can see it going either way. Ruddock was in outstanding shape, could take a good punch and had as much power in his left as just about anyone. Foreman was keeping busy in the early 90’s. Archie Moore helped him to develop a style that worked for him in old age. His cross armed defense proved very effective and he could still hit hard with both hands. He also didn’t waste shots and paced himself pretty well. I’m almost inclined to thinking that this one could go the distance

 

I think the point I most agree with here, and one that could more than conceivably make the fight for Ruddock, is that Big George was unquestionably not the level of Iron Mike in 1991. By that I mean pre-prison Mike, because I'm not as impressed with post-prison Mike as many others here are, thought he lost some of his speed and forward movement.

But yeah, though the Mike who fought Ruddock wasn't quite the Spinks-annihilator, he was still great, which made his then-pending prison term even more of a bummer.

Bottom line, the man who beat Ruddock twice was superior to the George of that period, thus Ruddock (who gave Mike definite trouble, despite dropping most of the rounds) would have been at least a huge headache for him. Perhaps a 90s version of Lyle-Foreman? Imagine that kind of drag out fight between RR and GF!!!

 

The 90s Foreman power problem of this board is remarkable. Is it so hard to distinguish between a prime fighter and a man who went to church and come back totally exchanged in person and style ten years later?
An aging man who, whatever happened after ten years, must be still considered the KO-machine he once was? Unable to differentiate between these two fighters?

Stopping 4 of the 10 names he fought (three convincingly without Moorer), but on the other hand, everbody in my thread going for KO for almost all of that same boxers when he would be in his prime?

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/70s-foreman-vs-90s-foreman-opposition.662115/

Just to see the the same 4/10 KO-ratio knockout artist via stoppage-guess in almost any fantasy fight coming up here.

Well.....maybe we need another oFBV (old Foreman Brain Virus) conversation like we used to have with that other fellow doing legendary things that nowhere ever happened in reality (Rocky -> RBV).