Don't be fooled with this so called "bravery" act by PacMan and his fans/Hoya haters

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Osiris2k, Aug 19, 2008.


  1. Osiris2k

    Osiris2k Member Full Member

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    All this **** about PacMan being small is overrated. He's been weight draining for years at super featherweight. He should have been a 135 years ago but their wasn't any big pay day fights their so he drained.

    I'm not fooled by this tho. He's not doing anything heroic. As far as i am concerned Pac is a big lightweight moving up to 147 to fight Oscar at 147 just like Mosley did in 2000.People will bring up the fact that he fought at Flyweight yeah and? That was years ago and like i said Pac has been weight draining for years.

    He's not a small guy like everyone makes him out to be. This fight is good fight based on Pac being fast and in his prime and Oscar being past his prime.
     
  2. bulakenyo

    bulakenyo Am I a boxing fan yet? Full Member

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    OK.
     
  3. mexican legend

    mexican legend MVP! Full Member

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    Ask yourself this, who hits harder Pacquiao or Mayweather? Then ask yourself if Marquez who is way smaller than DLH can hurt Pacquiao what makes you think DLH can't hurt him?
     
  4. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    The size disparity is too much. Initially I thought maybe Pacman would box and move but when a guy is that much bigger than you it plays a big role in the fight.

    So what if he is a natural 135lber? Mayweather was a natural 147lber, arguably the best in the world and he split a decision with a past-prime DLH. Pacquiao would fare even worse. Much worse considering he isn't half as defensive as Mayweather.

    I'm not saying DLH is one of the top 154lbers or that he's dangerous to those guys. I'm just saying size will play a role here. Nothing Pac throws will bother DLH and there is nothing Pac will be able to do to keep DLH off of him.
     
  5. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    But isnt the power differential all just speculation? One of the hardest things to do in boxing is guess how succesfully a fighter carries their speed and power up in weights.

    In theory, Duran who got KTFO by Hearns shouldnt have been able to go up and fight on the inside with Hagler. Hagler shoulda just ranned him over. In theory(my theory), nothing Floyd threw at ODLH should have bothered him....but it did. In theory, Ruiz shoulda just cornered Roy Jones pretty eaisly and ranned him over. Before the fight, people were split as to who was gonna win...just cos of Ruiz size.

    In theory ODLH beats Pac easy with his size but im leaning towards the other way. Pac carries enough power to deter ODLH from simply walking in and uses his much fresher legs and reflexes to outbox DLH to UD.

    Also Margo had stamina to absorb that many punches, dont think DLH does.
     
  6. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac was 146 vs. Diaz, which is welterweight. He'll be at least 151 vs. Oscar which is SWW and the weight of Floyd Mayweather Jr. in the DLH fight.
     
  7. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    see them side by side and youll see that Oscar is much bigger.
     
  8. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    and guzman was 148 when he fought soto. marquez was 141 when he fought pac. not only pac was doing this.
     
  9. Richel Hersisia

    Richel Hersisia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    mayweather a natural 147lber ? :huh
    he walked around on that weight yeah. Floyd belongs in the same weightclass as Guzman 135/140
     
  10. CJLightweight

    CJLightweight Lightweight Kingpin Full Member

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    not enough big pay days at 135? :huh

    i don't think so...if what you say is true he could have fought hatton, jlc, corrales, and casa at that weight
     
  11. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Well it is true that DLH doesn't like to get hit. He actually doesn't have the mindset of Margarito to walk through those punches.

    But, Pacquiao is very small compared to past opponents. I don't think Pac will be able to keep DLH off of him. Even though the vast majority of the time DLH will be doing next to nothing and throwing pittypat shots in the final 30 seconds.

    I don't disagree that Mayweather got his attention. He probably did. But Pac again is very small. I'm not convinced he hits hard enough to get DLH's attention, not at 147-154.
     
  12. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Did you even watch Diaz vs Pac? Pac looked tiny in that fight imagine what he will look like next to Oscar.

    Thing is Oscar will look like a snail next to Pac
     
  13. Jack Presscot

    Jack Presscot Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Oscar succeeds in signing this farce, I am hoping that he goes out with loss number 6. Manny Pac is light years faster, and is ridiculously powerful for his size. Maybe this will go the route of RJJ-Ruiz.
     
  14. rjamesd1

    rjamesd1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ALL fighters get hurt whenever they fight, correct me if I'm wrong. Unless it's a KO in the first few seconds of the fight in the FIRST round. Quit rationalizing about your BOY jmm. HE FALLS DOWN whenever he fights PACMAN....in case you're blind....:rasta
     
  15. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Oscar will beat Pac because he is on another level as far as boxing skills are concerned. Oscar is on JMMs level with skill. However what lost JMM both fights with pac were the flash KDs, This WILL NOT happen with Oscar which is where his size will come into play. Oscar is just the better boxer and the way Pac neutralizes superior boxers is with his speed and power....he won't be able to do this with Oscar because he is also stronger and more powerful then him. Pac can't win this fight. Anyone that thinks Manny Pac is gonna outbox Hoya to a decision victory is crazy. Pac is not faster then Floyd and Floyd didn't beat Oscar with his speed, he used his speed to compliment his superior skills....Pac doesn't have superior skills.