Dont Fight Hatton On The Inside!!pbf Is The Man

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by tills9191, Jun 24, 2007.


  1. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    How could he find his jab when he's being wrestled :lol:
     
  2. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Didn't you know all he had to do was jab and step back or left. That's ALL he had to do.
     
  3. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    You've brought this whooping upon yourself. You've made your bed now you must sleep in it.

    This isn't about Mayweather or Cotto. I love it when people say moronic things like this. There is always somebody out there that you will get with. He'll beat Floyd and Cotto and you'll come up with stupid **** like - he couldn't do this to Paul Williams. You'll always find someone to hide behind. What would happen with Mayweather and Cotto is an OPINION. What happened with Tszyu and Castillo is FACT.

    Now let's talk about Tszyu.

    Tszyu had fought 7 months earlier against the consensus number 1 140 pounder. Take into consideration Tszyu has 14 week training camps so is ready in every shape and form.

    Prior to that he hadn't fought in about 20 months BUT had trained to fight Mitchell about 3 or 4 times! Each time he'd been in camp for many months. So he had the training camps without the wear and tear of any fights.

    You can't complain about sharpness because his timing, range, accuracy was spot on and brutal against a slick, fast, southpaw in Mitchell.

    The intensity in which Tszyu managed to fight Hatton with is even more proof that he wasn't finished as a fighter.

    The anti-Hatton argument via the Kostya Tszyu fight is manure at best.
     
  4. MoneyPunch

    MoneyPunch New Member Full Member

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    What the **** are you going on about, brought what upon myself?
    Sharba Mitchell was gone before he fought Kostya, had knee problems, and was scared.
    Watch the fight.
    Then next, if you read my opening post, I said that Tszyu showed how to beat Hatton, and thats making him lunge is, and countering him.
    Tszyu was excellent in the middle rounds, but just didnt have any gas left.
    14 week training camps are all good and well, but it doesnt hide the fact, tht training must be consistent to be optimum, and Tszyus hadnt been as he was injury prone.

    De La Hoya had a 14 week camp, many fighters do, but if you are inactive for spells before or between these, youll gas, thats FACT.

    My reference to Mayweather was that he is brilliant at measuring distance, is very, very accurate, and doesnt gas.
    Kostya showed this as the way to beat Hatton, just didnt have enough left at that stage of his career to pull it off, Mayweather has that.

    I think Hatton is a very good fighter, I just think that against the very best, he'll get beaten, and that was my point.
     
  5. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Oh shut up with your whining. Mitchell was the consensus number 1. Don't try and change history with your hindsight bull****.

    Tszyu himself said that Tszyu beats a younger Tszyu.

    Tszyu never gassed, he quit. Plus he was facing arguably the fittest fighter in the game. Did he gas when he lost the early rounds!

    It isn't a fact because Tszyu showed great stamina. He has NEVER shown that sort of stamina. Don't act like Tszyus ever been a stamina freak.

    Mayweathers the best boxer in the world. What moron isn't going to agree he'll give Hatton fits. However that argument can be countered based on what DLH and Castillo achieved against him. Both Floyd and Hatton will want to fight their fight. Who knows who will be able to do it more. Neither of us do. We do KNOW that Hatton beat a great 135 and 140 pounder.

    The consensus on ESB is that Castillo is a top 30 lightweight and Tszyu a top 10 light welterweight. That speaks for itself. Come out with all your excuses but that's the truth.

    You all make out like Hatton is God. How come Hatton KNOWS that Castillo and Tszyu are old shot and there for the taking when 99% of ESB didn't know Tszyu was pre fight and 50% didn't know Castillo wasn't pre fight? He must be a prophet.

    This is the sort of moronic **** people say about Leonard. He knew Benitez, Duran II, Hearns and Hagler were there for the taking. Sort it out and give a fighter his dues.
     
  6. dwilson

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    WHY ALL THE FUSS OVER PBF?

    Yes he's a great fighter but he's far from invincable. He should have against castillo first time and has come close on other occaisions. His recent wins were good but against very wisely selected fighters- boldomir anyone? Plus he only managed a split decision against a shot de la hoya who was very slow, could not throw many consecutive punches and gave pbf te last half a dosen rounds on the grounds of him being ****ed and pbf still did not knock him out.

    Pbf would prob win at 147 because he is good and a qiuck runner but in the lions den of 140 it could be very different outcome.

    Cotto v hatton would be great and i would give cotto the win at 147 but hatton should not be dismissed.
     
  7. ron u.k.

    ron u.k. Boxing Addict banned

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    castillo did most of the holding.watch the fight.
     
  8. ron u.k.

    ron u.k. Boxing Addict banned

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    achilles your really out of order on here talking so much sense.it just wont do!
     
  9. ron u.k.

    ron u.k. Boxing Addict banned

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    you have actually seen hatton fight have you? what about the 1st 6 rounds against urango when he fought on the outside using the jab and swift combinations and also similar against ben tackie.
     
  10. tills9191

    tills9191 Member Full Member

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    What I'm saying is that Hatton only knows 1 style of fighting and thats it..inside fighting, he knows nothing else, you get a fighter whose skilled enough to keep him away..Hatton will lose, that's the way to be Hatton, otherwise he's just too brutal on the inside,I'm sure any person here with half a brain can understand this point.
     
  11. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Hatton's clinching and wrestling can tire anyone out. All of that grappling tires a fighter's arms.

    Hatton can be boring, but he clinches for a reason.

    He would give Mayweather a lot of problems at 140.
     
  12. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    Mayweather would box his ears off. I actually think Collazo was effective inside against Hatton by keeping his guard high and his arms tight as it prevented Hatton from grappling him. If it weren't for the flash knockdown in round one Collzao would have won that fight. Mayweather has trouble against effective pressure, Hatton is far too open defensively and will give to many opportunities for counter shots.
     
  13. gatorage

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    Tszyu's corner said to him, 'what are you doing mate? stop fighting on the inside. stiff jab, throw more rights'.

    Tszyu simply didn't do it though till he'd wasted too much energy. He fought arrogantly in my opinion. He seemed happy to wrestle Hatton for the first three rounds and got tired. I think he suddenly realised his predicament and by then it was too late. You don't find a second burst of energy in a fight like that at 35 years of age with only two fights in four years.

    Tszyu said in his post-fight conference 'I thought I could fight his fight on the inside. I did not listen to my corner. I could not twist my jab. I don't know why.'

    Tszyu definitely showed how to set up Hatton though in those middle rounds before fading. I do feel a fitter boxer like Mayweather would be able to do it successfully. But damn, I'd like to see it! Mayweather doesn't hit like Tszyu and Hatton is fast on his feet.

    Always thought if Tszyu had rematched Hatton immediately he had a good shot.

    Congrats to Hatton!
     
  14. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Collazo wouldn't have won the fight even without the knockdown
     
  15. tills9191

    tills9191 Member Full Member

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    Jee I'm glad im reiterating KT's trainer Johnny Lewis, without prior knowledge of it..so my point is valid