Don't fight the best in your division, move up & fight a shot fighter & you're P4P#1!

And, yet, at the end of the day, people will pay hard-earned money for this fraud. Not me, but many here will.

 

I'll go over to one of my PacMan friends' house & watch it for free. But honestly, if I had to pay to watch it, I probably would.

 

FAIL!!!

DLH is not "shot". He still possesses the hand speed and is a very good boxer. He's not what he was but he'd give almost anyone at WW trouble outside of maybe the big boys like the huge Margarito and Williams.

Who cares if Pacman weighed 145 against Daiz at fight night (reportedly)? The guy gives up nearly 4 inches in height and 7 inches in length. The guy is a midget when compared to DLH. No amount of talk by HBO or the media will change that. It's a midget fighting a much bigger man.

Heck yeah, if Pacman beats DLH, it's an incredible performance.

 

Not to mention WTF do you think Oscar is gonna weigh come fight night? I can bet you no matter what Manny comes in at on fight night (Let's say he rehydrates to about 155) Oscar will still be trumping that.

 

I agree witht he 2 former posters and disagree with the OP.

This fight is good for boxing. Is there something wrong with making a fight that "casual" fans might want to attend and buy and talk about? Boxing needs these events so that it remains a viable sport.

2) DLH is not shot. As stated previously he can still hold his own versus a top ranked boxer. He has a ton of skill and ring experience. The argument that manny weighted 146 or whatever last figth doesnt hold water. he is still a little guy that started at under 100 lbs in professional boxing.

**Edit for on more point. BOTH of these guys have fought elite fighters on a consistent basis. I find it disrespectful to argue that either guy should have done more to "earn" respect for this fight.

 

I don't think anyone is happy that we may have to wait (longer) for JMM-Pac 3. Noone should be satisfied that the hottest rivalry in boxing is being put on hold.

But let's not try to make Manny some sort of ***** for going up in weight against the always dangerous ODLH who gave P4P #1 Floyd Mayweather Jr more trouble than anyone post-Castillo, has KO power in both hands and most importantly a Whose Who list of opponents for a resume.

Seriously there are bigger people to ***** at here than Manny.

 

I get the point of the OP highlighting the fact that ODLH is not fresh. But seriously, does anyone favor Pacman over DLH in this fight (other than Nallege of course). True, I never wanted this fight to happen, but it's a done deal. If anything, I wouldn't want Manny to be laid out cold.

The fact of the matter is, Pac didn't get #1 status because of this fight. It was by steadily moving along the ranks of the PFP fighting legitimate opposition. You may say that he fought old and faded fighters, but let's remember that if he hadn't fought these "old" fighters, people would still be calling him out for not fighting the Barreras and Moraleses, old as they may be. These "old fighters" were at the top of the totem pole back in the day and had he not fought them, people would still be crying over how he didn't fight the best just like how FMJ gets flack for not fighting Tzsyu (yet another old fighter).

Now you may point out that Margarito is the best welterweight right now, but this fight is not to determine who is the best in that division. It's a fight about money. To tell you frankly, Pac grew up in such desperate conditions that money is what really motivates him, because in the end, Manny Pac does not love boxing because he gets hurt, he loves it because it's what gives his kids a fighting chance at a good education and puts food on the table. Not just for his family but he feeds a lot of mouths back in GenSan. For that reason, I am proud that he is taking this fight for the money and I do not begrudge him for it.

Sincerely,
A Sensible Pacfan and a Proud Filipino

 

Before this fight was announced Pac had 0% chance of winning. Now Pac is cherrypicking an easy fight? lol. clowns.

Put it this way, despite all of Pac's fans, he is still a firm underdog in this fight. He hasnt been for 5 years, and if he was fighting anyone from 126-130-135 he wouldnt be too. Going by that basis alone, Pac has taken the toughest challenge out there for him, tougher than, Nate, tougher than JMM, tougher than Juan Diaz, Linares, Valero or any other names you can throw out there.

You're gonna say not tougher than Margarito...well duh idiot. Dawson would be considered the toughest fight out there for Calzaghe...but Wlad sure as hell is tougher. Its called toughest possible fight.

Put things into perspective here, DLH got an SD against PBF, some saw him winning. Pac a former flyweight is coming up to take on an ATG WW who himself just took a prime p4p #1 WW to an SD and somehow Pac is picking an easy fight? Heck Pac could fight Margarito and your ass will still be claiming his taking on an easy fight, cos Margarito is an easier fight than Calzaghe or Wlad.

This would be a legendary win, IF he does win, and a very big if. I can breakdown and analyse fights very well and though my heart is fully with Pac, in my head I just cant see it. ODLH had enough speed to trouble Floyd, enough pop to KTFO Mayorga, a 6" reach & height advantage and about 10lbs in weight. With p4p skills to boot. You can bring ODLH age but lets just look at Bernard a moment here. Pac did not pick Ruiz, Pac picked an ATG fighter who himself recently took an ATG p4p #1 WW in PBF to an SD.

Lets compare this fight to Calzaghe coming up to HW to fight Vitali Klitschko. Both ODLH & Klitschko on their recent fights took the best fighters in their division to a very close fight (PBF & Lennox), both retired part time boxers, both still damm good and hold a clear size advantage and skilled with it.

Another thing, DLH is supposudley too shot for Pac but no one would have complained if he fought Margarito or Cotto. Pac must be held to a real high standard round here, cos DLH is good enough for those guys but too shot for Pac.

 

I see your point and I am not going to say you are definitetivly wrong. However, there is an appeal here and I believe the fight is significant. Manny is still the p4p best fighter in my any many other peoples eyes. DLH is still a very good much heavier fighter.

If Manny pulls this fight out I see it as a pretty significant achievement. he beats a guy much larger, harder punching, heavier fighter who has world class experience. DLH is a very good addtition to his resume if he wins.

Now this fight was compared to Jones versus Ruiz, I will just counter that statement to this, DLH is no Ruiz.

 

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"Dream Fight" my arse!:verysad

 

I haven't come across one post which states beating Oscar will make pac the man at 147 - everyone knows it doesn't - Roach is on record stating that they have picked Oscar because they believe he is for that taking - pac would have real trouble with some of the other guys.

I can have a go at Oscar for this is a silly match up, it really should not be happening, but I find it hard to be too harsh on pac as he's stepping in the ring with a much larger man. Also, Oscar is diminshed but he is not shot like the OP states; he gave the P4P no1 a good run.

 

It's a money fight for Pac and a straight duck move by Oscar. What happened to the Oscar of old that wanted the toughtest fights?

 

Pac would get destroyed by Margarito, Clottey, Williams, Mosley, and Berto.

 

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