Don't fight the best in your division, move up & fight a shot fighter & you're P4P#1!

pauliemayweathe · Nov 15, 2008

Decebal said:

As long as Pacman takes his punishment to the bitter end, as if it were the most important fight of his career, I'll have no complaints. But if he quits, telling himself it's not worth it, just because he realises he's in too deep, against a much bigger opponent, I'm done with him. You've made your bed, then sleep in it. A challenge is not big enough if it's so big that you can fail and completely and still pretend you achieved something. Anyone could step into the ring with a prime Tyson and lose in ten seconds. That takes fewer guts than getting into the ring with someone you could go 10-12 rounds with, who could beat you up properly, leaving you damaged for life e.g. Benn v. G-man.:good
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kind of like your guy hatton did..he took the ten mil knowing he was subpar at best at 147 and got manhandled by PBF than compained he was just too heavy

BigBone · Nov 15, 2008

Shake said:

I don't think there's anyone in the sport that would turn down a fight against DLH.
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Of course. Because he's the money machine. But not HOF machine anymore if you beat him. He's 3-3 in his last 6, and the 3 wins are a controversial one vs. Sturm, one vs. Mayorga and one vs. Forbes. Still he's the draw, but beating him lost the historical significance, no matter where do you jump up from. End of story.

klion22 · Nov 15, 2008

You know what's going to be the moment of truth? When they face off before the start of the fight and DLH towers over the midget like Hopkins did over DLH but even worse. Then, even the harshest DLH critics and Manny fans will say, "Oh ****, this is a mismatch".

Wait, people will see the difference in the weigh-in face off but the powers that be will probably give Manny a stool to fool the people so they can rack up the PPV numbers.

Axe · Nov 15, 2008

What bull****.

Pac's fight against Oscar is a sham, from Oscar's point of view!

DLH is a huge favourite, Pac is expected to lose big. If he wins, it will be another great achievement in a truly great career.

Axe · Nov 15, 2008

dangerousity said:

Hardly.

JML: 5'7" starting weight 122lbs
MAB: 5'6" starting weight 115lbs

VS

Pac: 5'6" starting weight 106lbs
ODLH: 5'11" starting weight 135lbs

Huge difference in comparison. Huge.

If anything, this can be more compared to Calzaghe vs Tyson (post prison).
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:good

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chimba · Nov 15, 2008

BigBone said:

Of course it's not a walk in the park for Manny! Of course it's a huge risk, our poll suggests 55% think he'll lose, the most voted by knockout!

But how stupid is to put yourself in such a crazy situation: instead of fighting the elite in your weight-class for titles (JMM, Campbell), you jump up big, BUT vs. someone who doesn't belong to the title elite anymore and clearly over the hill. So no title, no prime fighter, just moving up, and that alone is little to give historical credit for.

You can still move up for the money, it's your call, just don't look for any kind of huge recongition! I don't even recognise the effort of jumping up, as the risk is only in 'moving up', not 'whom against'. 24/7 will be about the horrific threat DLH will offer, but close to 2009, DLH is not offering a horrible threat. Margarito, Williams, Clottey, Cotto, the WW elite offers a horrible threat, DLH offers paycheck.

Others think PacMan is just taking a dive for the paycheck, and don't see the decline of DLH. Well... why would you put yourself in a situation to lose and to lose to an old man outside of your weight-class? It's not even brave. It's 'okay, I'll fight a big man, but please don't bring the elite, but an old man with money.'

Marco Antonio Barrera would probably be the favorite vs. Juan Manuel Lopez. And what? History made again? Give me a break! In reality, history is fighting Vazquez - or bigger history is fighting Juan Manuel Marquez, which is something no one can ask from Lopez. But fighting an old Marco Antonio Barrera at 130 is just not really significant historically. It's all about the money and making it LOOK LIKE significant while it's not.

For those who think there's history to gain in December, HBO's hype machine has already won, and 24/7 has yet to kick off! atsch
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Stop writing long winded posts that makes no sense. Do you not understand 20 Million dollars?

First, this is a big challenge for Pac and he deserves all the credit in the world..and DLH can do what the **** he wants...Whats wrong with you?

Soriano · Nov 15, 2008

You guys should know that a professional boxer fights for the money. It is not the boxer, in this case, Pacquiao, who choose his opponents. It is his promoter, Bob Arum. You are barking at the wrong tree. Blame Arum and dela Hoya himself. But more on dela Hoya who chose Pacquiao, not Margarito, and has been promoting this fight himself. Why pick on the small guy, idiots?

Meanwhile, Pacquiao, win or loss, will be laughing his way to the bank.

Soriano · Nov 15, 2008

klion22 said:

You know what's going to be the moment of truth? When they face off before the start of the fight and DLH towers over the midget like Hopkins did over DLH but even worse. Then, even the harshest DLH critics and Manny fans will say, "Oh ****, this is a mismatch".

Wait, people will see the difference in the weigh-in face off but the powers that be will probably give Manny a stool to fool the people so they can rack up the PPV numbers.
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They already a face off picture already. Except for height, they don't much of a difference in heft.

imp4pdabest · Nov 15, 2008

Soriano said:

You guys should know that a professional boxer fights for the money. It is not the boxer, in this case, Pacquiao, who choose his opponents. It is his promoter, Bob Arum. You are barking at the wrong tree. Blame Arum and dela Hoya himself. But more on dela Hoya who chose Pacquiao, not Margarito, and has been promoting this fight himself. Why pick on the small guy, idiots?

Meanwhile, Pacquiao, win or loss, will be laughing his way to the bank.

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Can you translate 50's song "Straight to the bank with this" in Philliino language.

sinosleep · Nov 15, 2008

NALLEGE said:

Bone, there are some Pac fans out there who would call this win "legendary" lol...if Pac won. Can you believe that?
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I wouldn't call it a legendary win, but obviously, considering that practically noone is giving Pac any chance in hell there must be something to the claim right?

Soriano · Nov 15, 2008

p4pdabest said:

Can you translate 50's song "Straight to the bank with this" in Philliino language.
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This is the translation and you can ask your Filipino (right spelling) on this : PUTANG INA MO!!!! :rofl:rofl:rofl

Soriano · Nov 15, 2008

BigBone said:

Of course it's not a walk in the park for Manny! Of course it's a huge risk, our poll suggests 55% think he'll lose, the most voted by knockout!

But how stupid is to put yourself in such a crazy situation: instead of fighting the elite in your weight-class for titles (JMM, Campbell), you jump up big, BUT vs. someone who doesn't belong to the title elite anymore and clearly over the hill. So no title, no prime fighter, just moving up, and that alone is little to give historical credit for.

You can still move up for the money, it's your call, just don't look for any kind of huge recongition! I don't even recognise the effort of jumping up, as the risk is only in 'moving up', not 'whom against'. 24/7 will be about the horrific threat DLH will offer, but close to 2009, DLH is not offering a horrible threat. Margarito, Williams, Clottey, Cotto, the WW elite offers a horrible threat, DLH offers paycheck.

Others think PacMan is just taking a dive for the paycheck, and don't see the decline of DLH. Well... why would you put yourself in a situation to lose and to lose to an old man outside of your weight-class? It's not even brave. It's 'okay, I'll fight a big man, but please don't bring the elite, but an old man with money.'

Marco Antonio Barrera would probably be the favorite vs. Juan Manuel Lopez. And what? History made again? Give me a break! In reality, history is fighting Vazquez - or bigger history is fighting Juan Manuel Marquez, which is something no one can ask from Lopez. But fighting an old Marco Antonio Barrera at 130 is just not really significant historically. It's all about the money and making it LOOK LIKE significant while it's not.

For those who think there's history to gain in December, HBO's hype machine has already won, and 24/7 has yet to kick off! atsch
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Bigbone, look at this sign, ***** -----> $$$$$$$$$$ **** your legacy. He has beaten Marquez already twice. No need to fight him unless there is big $$$$$$. Same is true w/ Campbell. Boxers fight and risk their lives, not because of legacy but for $$$$$$. Have you ever heard of Olympic champs selling their gold medals? They have the legacy but no $$$$$$$.

Silvermags · Nov 15, 2008

NALLEGE said:

Bone, there are some Pac fans out there who would call this win "legendary" lol...if Pac won. Can you believe that?
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wtf?!!!!!!!!!

Bigbone + Nallege = CERTIFIED PAC HATER INDEED!

PAC will move up two divisions UP from 135lbs to 147lbs.

Considering he only experienced fighting at 130lbs.. so basically it's almost saying he jumped from 130 to 147lbs.............One fight at 135lbs so it's almost saying 130lbs to 147lbs?!!!

He is fighting a guy who is much taller than him and has longe reach advantage....

You call that CHERRY PICKING?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At the same time, is winning over CAMBELL AND OR JMM more meaningful in TERMS OF MONEY AND LEGACY compared to beating DLH?!

YOU GUYS ARE INSANE?!

You want JMM?! Sure but he already fought him 2x!'s. He had his chance but indeed I want to see the 3rd fight again.. PAC's team call's the shots not JMM. So JMM has wait if he wants his ticket to FAME and FORTUNE

CAMPBELL? You want papa nate instead of DLH? You mean CAMPBELL is more of a THREAT than DLH? Are you sure you KNOW WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!

Why fight the two mentioned if they can give you LESS $$$$$ and less LEGACY COMPARED to winning over DLH?!

PH|LLA · Nov 15, 2008

dangerousity said:

Hardly.

JML: 5'7" starting weight 122lbs
MAB: 5'6" starting weight 115lbs

VS

Pac: 5'6" starting weight 106lbs
ODLH: 5'11" starting weight 135lbs

Huge difference in comparison. Huge.

If anything, this can be more compared to Calzaghe vs Tyson (post prison).
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Size in boxing is about weight, not height. Calzaghe is actually taller than Tyson. So is Celestino Caballero. I don't see why you are mentioning their height and then making a Calzaghe vs Tyson comparison

And Barrera was fighting at 122 by the age of 20. JuanMa Lopez turned pro at 22.

Silvermags · Nov 15, 2008

Yup! Indeed our Nate Campbell is champ...

The champ who lost to a lot of nobody's and to somebody

Isaac Hlatswayo WHO?
Francisco Lorenze WHO?!
Robbie Paden yes! 2x 's
Joel Casamayor 2002, Yes, he is a somebody but too bad he LOST

Yup! Campbell who's only ticket to fame is Juan Diaz. GOOD win but SHOULD PAC be scared of him?!

yUP! that is what big bone is saying........... instead of fighting DLH fight CAMPBELL! - You are a funny guy trying to sound serious indeed!!!!!

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