Don't fight the best in your division, move up & fight a shot fighter & you're P4P#1!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BigBone, Nov 15, 2008.


  1. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And he is saying that PAC should be fighting the likes of campbell :lol: :lol:

    He foresees OR smells that PAC is about the upset DLH so as EARLY as now he's taking out any possible credit for pac..

    Don't get me wrong guys. My feet is on the ground. if DLH wins NO EXCUSES and CONGRATS to DLH!

    I'm here trying to make fun of BIGBONE........your reasonin stinks... your name should be CANCERBONE:hey

    PAC should fight the likes of campbell... Are you trying to be FUNNY or you are PLAINLY stupid? We'll find out soon. Meantime KEEP posting....
     
  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Oscar is not prime. I mean noone can deny this. He is moving back down to a weight class he hasn't fought at in ten years.

    Even the biggest Pac fans cannot say that Oscar is in his prime. I am a huge Pac fan, but Oscar is not even top10 at WW. At the very least, he hasn't showed it recently.
     
  3. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    I think you missed his point. His point is MAB and Lopez are close in weight naturally, basically the same size...whilst DLH and Pac are not. And the height differential is significant as well (in this specific case)..its certainly not to PAcs advantage to be 4 inch shorter.
     
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  5. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nallege is Amsterdam.

    He will hate all that stand in Calzaghe's way of being P4P #1.

    He hated Mayweather, now he hates Pacquiao.
     
  6. Nestea

    Nestea Thirst Remover Full Member

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    Pac will never get the credit he deserves but only get criticized by many people on ESB. Don't tell me its a lie, I've seen the majority and heck you all seen it.

    Let's try to go back to the past....

    Barrera VS Pacquiao 1:
    Before: Barrera is top 3 p4p, it will just be a walk in the park against this unknown Filipino.
    After: His camp was on fire.

    Marquez VS Pacquiao 1:
    Before: Marquez would beat and counter crazy this Filipino, he only got lucky with Barrera.
    After: The judges robbed Marquez. He won 11 out of 12 rounds.

    Morales VS Pacquiao 1:
    Before: Morales is a legend
    After: I told you so.

    Velazquez VS Pacquiao:
    Before: Hector is a top fighter
    After: He is a bum

    Morales VS Pacquiao 2:
    Before: He's(Manny) gonna get another beating.
    After: Morales was shot

    Larios VS Pacquiao:
    Before: Oscar is a top fighter
    After: Vazquez KO'ed Larios, while Pacquiao can't do ****.

    Morales VS Pacquiao 3:
    Before: Erik just got a bad night before, he'll prove he is more powerful.
    After: He is totally shot

    Solis VS Pacquiao:
    Before: Solis is young and undefeatable. He makes 200 punches in 1 round.
    After: He is a bum

    Barrera VS Pacquiao 2:
    Before: Barrera has a good camp and will sought revenge against Pacman.
    After: He kept running coz he was shot.

    Marquez VS Pacquiao 2:
    Before: He would school Pacquiao again.
    After: Pacman got only a gift and Marquez won 11 out of 12 rounds.

    Diaz VS Pacquiao:
    Before: Pacman is no match for the stronger and bigger Diaz. Pacman is just too small and he is not the old self.
    After: Diaz was a paper champion.

    Now...

    De la Hoya VS Pacquiao:
    When it was talked about: F*ck this, Hoya is too big and would pulverize Pacman.
    When it was signed: F*ck this, Hoya would kill Pacman. This is a circus match.
    3 months notice: Hoya is old btw and didn't do well at Forbes.
    2 months notice: Hoya is shot. **** this dream mismatch.
    1 month notice: Hoya is shot again.
    week notice: ???
    Aftermath: (If Pac looses) I told you he(manny) is stupid and only did this for money (If Pac wins) Hoya is shot and no longer his prime.

    Sorry for the long post.
     
  7. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If your going to criticise boxers for not making fights or taking easy match ups - pac is at the back of the que.
     
  8. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i dont think MAB is that taller than Juan ma, but if your saying in terms of weight division alone then ok:yep
     
  9. borj

    borj the Pacific Storm Full Member

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    pac fights at 146 fight night-true, and so it's not a mismatch??
     
  10. heidegger

    heidegger Guest

    You are right that the fight is a circus. You are wrong about Pac being anyhting like a jegit welter. You will see this when the'ye in the ring together.
     
  11. owell

    owell Active Member Full Member

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    Stupid thread...

    When tickets went on sale and were gobbled up in just a few hours, plus an expected near or more than a mil of PPV just means that majority of boxing fans aproves of it or recognize it as a blockbuster then threads like this becomes just a nuisance from a hater or ...
     
  12. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What chance do you give JMM, Campbell, all the fighters you want Pac fight instead, on beating ODLH?

    You really think it would be easy for Pac huh? This is in NO way an easy fight for Pac. I think most agree that DLH isnt in his prime anymore, but why is it that before this fight materialized everyone wanted him to fight Cotto, Margo etc..all prime fighters?!? Heck by your reasoning, PBF doesnt deserve any credit for winning a UD over dlh.
     
  13. Odiboy

    Odiboy New Member Full Member

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    Agree! Weren't most of the other champs booked for fights anyway at LW? Forget fighting Marquez again. By the time that fight materializes Pac would get no credit beating up on an old Marquez. :cool:
     
  14. Chert

    Chert Ringside Potato Full Member

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    just another one of these ubiquitous pac hate threads started by an obvious hater... so, what else is new.... tsk...tsk... :-( :-( :verysad :verysad
     
  15. Nestea

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    Don't fight the best of your division? So you you(thread starter) believes that Hoya whos is bigger and proven isn't more of a threat against those Lightweighters?

    You gotta give us that grass your smoking.

    Pacquiao is P4P #1 already and he proved it by beating the 3 amigos(twice and thrice). Oh yeah I forgot... they're all shot fighters in your eyes. Well then who did Pac faced who is lethal to him?

    Hector Velazquez?Oh yeah he is a bum right?Maybe his KO's and wins doesn't prove much.

    Oscar Larios?Oh yeah he's a bum he got ko'd by vazquez while Pac didn't.Yeah he's just a WBC featherweight champion right now.A Bum ain't he?

    Jorge Solis? Yeah his only lost atm is Pacquiao. After Pacquiao he's last outing is 2 TKO(Both Round 4) and a UD win. He's such a bum ain't he?

    We can keep going right?

    Pac fought the 3 legendary mexican and still criticize him. What more if that never happens?

    Let's see...

    Without Barrera:
    "Pac schools him prime for prime or not"
    "Barrera is the top 3 P4P, Pacquiao would be brutalize"
    "Barrera doesn't care **** about this Filipino, he needs to prove more"

    Without Morales:
    "Pac schools him prime for prime or not"
    "Morales is the best at adapting to any kind of situation. More or less its a KO/LATE KO/WIDE UD/SCHOOLING is what he gonna give to Pacman"
    "Morales is legend, Pacquiao ain't"

    Without Marquez:
    "Marquez is undefeatable" -divac
    "Marquez is the most superb technician of boxing, no way Pacman will win this one"
    "Marquez would just counter him(Manny) all night and KO him. If he can be merciful a wide UD"

    ****...I cannot find any positive criticism here on ESB for pac....

    I admit I did criticize Pac also(a lot)...but now I'm giving the well respect every boxer should deserve.