Don't give haye a rematch

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  1. vitesse349

    vitesse349 Active Member Full Member

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    If i were tony bellew or eddie hearn i would no way give him a rematch.
    Amazingly David Haye went from threatening permanent damage and disability, showreel knockouts, to
    " Oh tony, p!ease oblige me a rematch, you're the man now etc etc"

    ****ing embarrassment he is.
    The translation for above is
    " Oh tony, im fooked now, im not going to be fighting Joshua, wilder, any of the big names because you've ruined it for me, please please give me another payday"

    I was cringing listening to him, no shame whatsoever. Hes finished as a fighter, injury or not he was swinging like a drunkard, and he needs to go away and retire.

    No rematch clause because he thought bellew was easy money to KO .

    Lets say Haye won that fignt by the "showreel" KO he promised? Would he be giving bellew a rematch? Would he f uck. His ego would've been screaming from the rooftops, calling out Joshua, etc.
    I'm glad tony bellew has derailed the whole thing, i hope Eddie hearn talks him out of any rematch and gets him another big fight instead.
     
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  2. On_The_Ropes

    On_The_Ropes Active Member Full Member

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    The thing is the trash talk in the build up to the fight from David Haye actually helped make Bellow a very rich man. Just like 99% of all boxing rivalries, this one was built on fake beef in order to sell a fight, behind the scenes they are actually friends. Bellow practically admitted as much after the fight when he said me and David spoke before we made the fight then didn't speak for 16 weeks. Don't fall for the hype, if the payday is big enough Bellow would give Haye a rematch.
     
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  3. CutThroatFade

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    Haye deserves a rematch. It was all talk in the build up and he fought like a warrior in the fight on one leg. Both helped each other make a hell of a lot of money and they can do it again and make more if it happens at Goodison.

    Money talks and Eddie Hearn doesn't hold grudges against fighters. Constantly gets involved in negotiations with Amir Khan despite all the trash talk between them and he also always says that he would still work with the Eubanks if they wanted even despite all the GGG bs.
     
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  4. vitesse349

    vitesse349 Active Member Full Member

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    Would haye have given bellew a rematch? Supposed friends or not? 100% NO in my opinion.
     
  5. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Prob not but that is because Haye would have plenty of other big money fights lined up, Bellew knew Haye's body is giving up on him (fair play to him for that because not many agreed with him but he called 100%) but the rematch is one of the biggest paydays again for Tony and a fight that he can clearly win. Hell a trilogy may even be on the cards.
     
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  6. bladesman

    bladesman Active Member Full Member

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    Haye needs to recover before anything is done next . Bellew will most likely want to fight again rather than wait for him to get fit.
     
  7. lawslaw

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    Agree totally with this. Pretty sure the only way Bellew would agree to a rematch is if there was a clause for the trilogy decider. And why not, he has deserved it to an extent. NO other fight pays Bellew even a third of what he would get from a Haye rematch, apart from AJ, and that would lose Hearn at least one of his cash cows so no real benefit.

    We have to all acknowledge now that Hayes career plans are drastically going to have to change. There is only an 80% chance his achilles will fully repair, then there is going to be a long rehab, at the very least 6 to 8 months. That is before he can start a camp. If he was to fight Bellew in a rematch with there being a trilogy clause then that likely ties him up for another 9 months after that at least, therefore he has no chance of any other 'BIG' fights until at least around Feb 2019, when he will have turned 38.
     
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  8. CutThroatFade

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    What other realistic options are there for Bellew? Breidis could beat him and he has no profile so it would be a very damaging defeat for Bellew. If he tries to unify the CW titles he most likely gets body bagged.

    He can try and fight Parker or Wilder and if he loses he saves face because no one expects him to win.

    So most likely we will see him box for the HW title, lose and then pick up one final pay day in a rematch against Haye.
     
  9. lawslaw

    lawslaw Active Member Full Member

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    If Bellew has broken his hand he won't be fighting anytime soon either. I wonder how much of Bellews injury is a clever stalling tactic, so he can get an idea of Hayes condition and recovery before he makes any decisions of his own for his future fights.
     
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  10. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They both seem keen on the rematch.
     
  11. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Haye had destroyed him easily a rematch wouldn't have made sense.

    If Haye had won in a close fight he may well have given Bellew a rematch, he gave him the fight in the first place.
     
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  12. james4210

    james4210 Active Member Full Member

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    I agree and it's the perfect story for a rematch, particularly great memories of the first fight, there are other fights for Tony and maybe he does a defence or fight someone is in the meantime but I think this rematch will happen because a lot of people want to see it and it is genuinely intriguing to do the rerun.
     
  13. NickHow1982

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    I thought this exact thing, and was talking this over with someone today. This has trilogy written all over it I reckon!
     
  14. Legend X

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    It's probably the best fight out there for both men.
    Haye perhaps should just retire though. Two losses to Bellew won't make him happy going forward. I'm not sure they can build up the rematch as big as this one, since the bad blood is no longer a viable marketing strategy. I guess it depends how many people thought this was a great fight. It wasn't a bad fight.

    Status-wise it was a "nothing" fight in the division all along, and really, even with Bellew winning, this hasn't had any impact on the world scene.
    Deontay Wilder seems to have no shame in who he fights so that's a possible avenue for Bellew, and if Hughie Fury somehow takes the WBO title from Parker that could be another option for Bellew. But all of them would easily beat Bellew.
     
  15. Twentyman

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    The 'talking' 16 weeks previous doesn't mean they had a couple of beers together, it could have been a business meeting.

    The beef between them was real.
    He talked about his wife and kid being scared that Haye was gonna do the things he said he was gonna do. Tony Bellew showed a lot of humility to his opponent after the fight whom had just seen his future paydays slip away, of course Haye's gonna accept Bellew's sportsmanship, you're not gonna slap away a chance of redemption.

    Bellew said all along he respects Haye has a fighter and even in the post fight press conference he said that although he emphasised 'as a fighter' although he doesn't agree with what he does outside the ring.

    If this is Bellew's last fight, then he should take the biggest payday. He's right what he says, he's the big draw now outside the belt holders and the PPV figures reflect that. Wilder, Parker and co are going to see the dollar signs with his marketability.
     
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