Don't tell me Usyk wouldn't give Ali nightmares

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  1. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    In what way would Usyk not give Ali problems
     
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  2. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Nor is peak Ali rope a dope.
     
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  3. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think you're getting a bit carried away by Usyk's great win over a very good champion.

    But Ali would be a totally different proposition.

    Usyk looked pretty fast beside AJ, but Ali was very much faster, both hands and feet.

    The only current HW who would pose any problems for Ali would be Fury, on account of his size.

    And he too would lose a wide points decision to Ali.
     
  4. Rakesh

    Rakesh Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Usyk beats AJ. Now he can beat one of the greatest h2h heavyweight nightmares?? Jesus, post-fight hype for Usyk is at a all time high right now. I do agree Usyk certainly can cause Ali problems. But my lord some people are saying total domination?? So Anthony Joshua is the exact same skill and speed as Ali? Can you guys just listen to yourself for a second?
     
  5. Rakesh

    Rakesh Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The overrated you called AJ is now the exact something your doing to Usyk! This is the same argument of AJ v Lewis a couple years back before he lost to Ruiz.
     
  6. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Again , the cart is being placed before the horse. Uysk win against a very overrated fighter in Joshua
    (And I wrote that on this very site well before his 1st loss) Now justifies a comparison to prime Ali
    in head to head match-up?
    As I wrote about Loma on many occasions (Well before his 1st loss, or wait a minute, well before his 2nd
    loss because in 15 total fights, he has 2 losses against average fighters, but some of you were on that
    train on how he beats every lightweight in history including Duran and Armstrong)
    Then came the Wilder fanatics , how he would ko Tyson.
    The Canelo fans and how he would school Hagler.
    Mayweather Jr, beats every great welter in history.
    As I wrote many times on how premature it is to compare those fighters to ATG when the best
    talent around in their own era they somehow manage to avoid . (And how ridiculous to compare
    Wilder to atg's when he looks amateurish on most occasions)
    The old timers have always said the best neutralizer of a south paw is quick lead right hand.
    Ali's lead right was almost as fast as his jab.
    Watch the Joshua vs Usyk fight and especially the 6th rd when Joshua decided to use
    his lead right how effective he was.
    Now imagine a prime pissed off Ali, frustrated from Usyk early success because of his
    south paw stance ,start to crank out his quick lead right hand from angles and distances
    Joshua can only dream about.
    Ali by mid-late rd tko would be the results. Ali just a whole different animal and level
    of competition.
    Sorry Usyk fan boys, beating Anthony Joshua doesn't justify a comparison to Ali,
    or any ATG heavyweight at this point of his career with his grand total of 19 pro fights
    and 3 as a heavyweight.
     
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  7. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He would but Ali is certainly quicker, more mobile, smarter, and slicker than Joshua. Joshua just isn't that good of a boxer and he's stiff as hell. Toney Bellew was outslicking, outboxing and countering Usyk to hell until he gassed. Michael Hunter was also outslicking and outboxing Usyk until he started gassing bit by bit as the rounds went by due to starting very agressive just like he did against Povetkin. Styles make fights

    Ali would maintain that construct over 12. Easily. Usyk would be one of his hardest fights though. I got it 60/40 favoring Ali but i wouldn't bet on it
     
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