Don't Underestimate Juan Manuel Marquez Against Manny Pacquiao

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  1. caneman

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  2. OBSERVER7421

    OBSERVER7421 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    pac is easy to hit, knocking pac out is the problem......and when you go for KO against pac its serious risky pain man.....jmm knows it, how many times did he got knockdown in the process
     
  3. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sho, 100% credit. :bbb:bbb
     
  4. goblin 2

    goblin 2 Blue Goblin Alliance Full Member

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    Oh shut the f*ck up

    every damn fight typical Manny has against some past it fighter u morons pull the same **** trying to hype away like always,

    give it a f*cken rest.. marquez stands little to no chance how stupid are some of you??
     
  5. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  6. SteelShoulders

    SteelShoulders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    why would anyone underestimate JMM Pac's two best fights? pac is a much stronger and faster fighter now, but JMM knows how to box him it should be a good fight
     
  7. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ^ Much truth to this.

    Now you lost me.
     
  8. TheGreat

    TheGreat Boxing Junkie banned

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    JMM is pushing 40, and is NOT a WW, Pac now enjoys advantages in this match up, that he didn't have before when he put JMM on his ass, pointless fight IMO.
     
  9. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yet many people want to put guys like Froch in the P4P list for struggling against a completely shot Glen Johnson and Jermaine Taylor.

    Manny absolutely smoked all the guys you mentioned and there aint a fighter alive that can do it in that fashion and go 7-0 without even being hurt. And Cotto came off a win vs Clottey while the Shane that had Floyd in the biggest trouble of his career was shot coming off a 15 month layoff totally done. He was scared **** of Pacquiao and doesn't even remember the middle rounds.

    Don't hate bro.
     
  10. TheGreat

    TheGreat Boxing Junkie banned

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    The Mosley fight was a huge farce.
     
  11. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No problem, Ill concede a couple of statements,#1 Clottey wasnt a bum/ He just didnt have no heart and thats worse than being a bum because he couldve won that fight if he wouldve shown some heart. #2 I didnt count Hattons other fights( my bad and thanks for the pullup). I stand by the rest of my statements cause ODLH lost the fight in the gym and he was past his prime. Margarito was a paper tiger, Mosley exposed him, so slow you could drink a cup of coffee in between his punches.Easy money. Mosley, we all knew what time that was. Cotto was damaged goods.He got hit and reverted back to his surviors defense.I aint hating on Pac cause he came to fight, them guys just couldnt show up.All Im saying is the last really good competition he had was with the man he will meet in Nov, Juan Manuel Marquez.:bbb:bbb
     
  12. E30

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    You can never discount a fighter such as JMM. He has already proven that he can hang with Pacquiao, even when he was younger and faster. The added weight has slowed Pacquiao down, although increasing his durability and punching power. I don't know why people say that Marquez is a dead man walking, he's been taking on and defeating the best in his division. Although those opponents are no Pacquiao, Marquez should put up a fight.

    One thing I like about this fight is that Marquez will not surrender and survive against Pacquiao. Unlike previous opponents who quit mentally once the going got tough, Marquez would go out on his shield before submitting.

    My favorite active fighter is Marquez, who I though won the both fights, but again clearly I'm biased as he's my favorite fighter. I can understand why someone would have it scored for either fighter. It all depends on what you score on.

    In this fight however, I see Pacquiao winning a close but CLEAR decision. I'll be rooting for Marquez though all the way. Can't wait for November.
     
  13. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, but that's ONE fight, and not exactly Manny's fault.
     
  14. E30

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    I do as well believe Clottey could have won the fight had he fought with more heart as he was damaging Pacquiao pretty bad and barely throwing any punches. But asking that of Clottey would make him a completely different fighter, it's just not his style.

    De La Hoya was obvious drained, but Pacquiao did what he had to do. It wasn't his fault his opponent wasn't prepared for a fight.

    Cotto was a very good fight. Although not at his best, it made no difference as the outcome would have been the same had he been 110%. He just doesn't have the stamina to compete with Pacquiao.

    Hatton was a good fight as well. He was on a rebound, although again not clearly at his best but wouldn't have made a difference either. Pacquiao showed the world the ring intelligence to make Hatton look like an amateur.

    Mosley just came for a paycheck, and taking the Margarito fight out of the picture hasn't looked good in years.

    All in all, it's past the point where Pacquiao can be accused of being fake. He's proven he is the real deal although I do think he's somewhat overhyped.

    Marquez is his best test by far. The one who has his number and one who has the heart of a lion.
     
  15. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    JMM could be cheating. That is not urine it is gasoline. He uses mini air bags when he fights Pacquiao to bounce back up when he gets knocked down. Roach will solve this.