Double standards from Fans

calzaghe knew EXACTLY what he was doing.
he dumped warren once he hit the US and got fights with ageing legends, and it ironic (and just) that joe and warren ended up fighting over money - which is what ****ed up calzaghe's career.

don't forget with froch though that if taylor never gave him a 'lifeline' he might have always been a junior witter type of fighter, calling out a fighter who he envied more than he was willing to test himself....

 

froch was a paper champion.
if taylor didn't have his wings clipped he wouldn't have seen froch as a 'leg up' - which is exactly what he saw him as.

stop using belts as something legitimate....they aren't!

 

you're talking about a guy who beat the legitimate MW champ at that time to earn the respect of the people around him against someone who you 'heard about on the news' and gave that meaning....

listen...i believe you're trying to be impartial otherwise you wouldn't still be debating with me. and it's good stuff to be honest.

but you need to know where jermain taylor came from as opposed to carl froch, becasue if the world stopped now...taylor is a man who beat the legitimate MW world champion twice (even though they were both ****ing close!), while froch was calling out calzaghe and trying to build his rep off of that.

i know you're trying...but you really need to listen to me !!

i got nothing against brits at all, i was born in north england - but you keep going back to these things which don't mean anything.

 

i'm not american....

do yuo understand now why it's so easy to label you as patriotic and i can't get through to you when you try to get 'rep points' like this?

confidence doesn't come from boxing boards or affiliations to fighters. this is the part that stops us from getting an understanding...

 

don't bull**** yourself

 

that's why you should react to people directly..but you are impartial even if you don't want to admit it

 

Your arguments aren't that strong, HoldmyBeer

A: I'm a New Yorker, let's clear that up.

B: High Risk/Low Reward when you're getting a career pay day doesn't compute. You're still not answering why Bernard Hopkins verbally accepted terms and then pulled out a day later, on rumours that he had spoken with people who knew about Calzaghe and decided it was too big a risk even for a career pay day.

C: Being that Calzaghe fought anyone who called him out, most notably Lacy, Kessler, Veit, Reid and Woodhall and we can't say the same thing for Hopkins or Jones Jr, what are you trying to say here? In my view, Hopkins actually has lesser wins on his career than Joe does. I know that's not common consensus but it's an arguably sound point. Yet you're saying Joe hasn't done anything? I'm sorry but defeating 10 world champions and around 20 Top 10 Ring Rated challengers in your career is quite a bit to be proud of.

D: It seems your only argument is that Joe should be blamed for everything where as Hopkins and Jones Jr should be blamed for nothing. That doesn't really wash, considering Joe was the only reason those fights eventuated at all and the idea that Hopkins was "old and washed up" got spanked worse than Kelly Pavlik when looking at performances either side of Joe.

Would Prime RJJ beat Calzaghe? 99% I'm sure he would. Would Calzaghe be the toughest fight for Prime RJJ out of boxers that were around during his time? 99% sure he would.

RJJ himself even indicated that.

 

good. then you'll be able to quote me directly from what i said to you before and reply to me.

 

Why quote a person who makes baseless assumptions about things like location? I wouldn't want someone getting confused into thinking I wrote the type of waffle you write.