Double Standards: Hopkins/Hagler

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  1. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good

    too many people just adopt this formula without question :

    if a big guy beats a little guy it's because the little guy was at a disadvantage with the extra weight, which isn't always the case.

    but if a little guy cuts through a few weight classes he's automatically seen as the exception to that simply because he won.
     
  2. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I don't see any double standard. Hopkins gets credit for beating good fighters, Hagler gets more credit for beating even better fighters. That's it.
     
  3. haglerwon

    haglerwon Official GTMSBT Marquez Full Member

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    It's because Hagler pulled his socks up to his knees, whereas Hopkins didn't.

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  4. zicas

    zicas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wow.. I'm sure you had pointed out Tito was blown up coming up to the fight. Didnt you? :hey

    That fight to me was as pure a boxing clinic as it can get. Hopkins showed immense skill and defence, completely neutralized Tito's left hook, and literally took him to school.

    I honestly don't see how anyone that appreciates the science of boxing can find this fight boring.


    :rasta
     
  5. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Because people are dumb and biased. After Hopkins has retired he will be appreciated more. Happens all the time.
     
  6. Raskolnikov

    Raskolnikov Guest

    Both men deserve credit, and both men get credit. The only morons I see on here degrading Hopkins's magnificent win over Trinidad are little Calzaghe fanboys who have a rod up their asses for B-Hop. Both Trinidad and Hearns proved they were big enough for middleweight, and both were effective at the weight (or higher, in Hearns's case).
     
  7. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    I did, The outcomes didn't surprise me one bit.
    (Same with the DLH fight)
     
  8. luciuslim

    luciuslim Well-Known Member Full Member

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    once b hop retires history will look kindly on him.
     
  9. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    I don't believe you but whatever floats your boat. I don't get you.

    :good
     
  10. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Hopefully some idiots on here will appreciate Hopkins more too but real fans give him his credit.

    That and his fights with Joppy & Echols 2. How the hell were they boring that's why I don't believe that Hatesrats has seen alot of Hopkins. He should change his name to HatesHopkins:lol:.
     
  11. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    I completly agree with you. :thumbsup
     
  12. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    What about the Titov/Loskov double standard boxed, that's the one that annoys me.Where do you stand on that;).
     
  13. Who'sNext

    Who'sNext Active Member Full Member

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    well, i read the thread and i see no point in your response... you don't have to be such an impressive ******* next time
     
  14. taobum70

    taobum70 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hopkins bullied Tarver around the ring, Hagler stayed at MW all his career. Hopkins also beat up Glen Johnson who later had better LHW wins than Hearns. Oh and how does giving away a winnable fight against SRL qualify as beating the **** out of everybody?
     
  15. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hagler NEVER claimed any desire to move up.What he did want was to break Monzon's then record for most consecutive middleweight defenses and to be recognized as one of the greatest middleweights ever.And Hagler was shot when he fought Leonard,which Leonard knew full well and is why he ducked Hagler for so long.And Leonard is the only fighter that Hagler "didn't beat" the **** out of that he fought.