So before and during the Ortiz/Cambell fight they were talking about Ortiz's decision to stop his fight. He knew he had been beaten and said OK and they (everyone) dog'd him for it. Durring the Khan/Malinigi fight they were like. Well he needs to quit. Its pointless. Good stoppage. Etc etc. And PM hadn't even been down. And an even bigger double standard. One of the best rivalries of the last decade. Marquez/Vasquez. Vasquez quit due to a broken nose. No one said anything about that. They called him a warrior. I think the verbal assault Ortiz had to endure from the general public was worse on his psyche than the actual loss.
Ortiz was actually winning on all the scorecards before he submitted. Big difference from a guy getting dominated from bell to bell, having no answers, no effect and no chance of winning, and being in the ring for the sole purpose of taking the other guy's punishment. Malignaggi was done, but still he didn't ask out. It was a good stoppage, but it had to be forced on him.
Mallinaggi didn't asked to be stopped. Ortiz did. I suppose thats why he gets more **** for it. I can't remember exactly the nature of the stoppage with Vasquez but wasn't it his corner that stopped the fight due to the fact that Vasquez was finding it hard tio breath?
Nahh, Izzy Vazquez quit himself because he said he couldn't breathe out of his badly broken nose. Roach was his trainer back then and I think he was prety upset with Izzy's decision. I think that's why they spilt after that fight, or so I've heard. And I know that some posters did give him some **** for that. Including me... especially when considering that right before the fight he was quoted as saying that he'd willing die in the ring and then he up and quit after a common place broken nose. He deserved a little bit of **** for that.
The reason Ortiz took so much **** after the Maidana fight really wasn't for what he did in the ring, it was for what he said outside of it. When he made those comments in the post fight about not seeing a need to take that kind of abuse is when people really turned on him. However, do I think that is fair??? No, he was a young who just finished a tough fight, it is not surprising he said something like that.
