Double Stoppages?

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  1. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    What fights have been so gruelling that this strange kind of stoppage has occured, where both fighters are deemed unfit to continue?

    Merqui Sosa vs. Prince Charles Williams was one of the most brutal fights I've ever seen, and was stopped in-between rounds for this exact reason.

    Frazier-Ali III, almost, anyway.
     
  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Wolgast Rivers is the classic case.

    A title fight where both the participants were counted out simultaneously.
     
  3. SuzieQ49

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  4. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    What happened there, exactly?
     
  5. Sweet Pea

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    Rocky got up. You need to brush up on your boxing knowledge, slacker.
     
  6. SuzieQ49

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    Ya but he fell right away after getting up, the ref should have clearly saw even though he was on his feet he was in no shape or form able to continue fighting
     
  7. janitor

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    It was exactly like the fight at the end of Rocky II except that neither fighter beat the count.

    The referre ruled that as Wolgast got back to his corner unaided he retained the title.

    The decision was controvertial at the time. Some observers thought that Wolgast hit the canvas slightly before Rivers and thus should have been counted out first. Others argued that Rivers deserved a draw.


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  8. Sam Dixon

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    There was welterweight or middleweight fight back in the late 1940's (1948 rings a bell) where neither fighter could continue because of the punishment they took, and I believe they were both initially saddled with a tko loss against each other. Offhand, I can't remember their names, though, but if it comes to me I'll post who they were.

    This wasn't a pro bout, but there was also this fight which quickly comes to mind when talking about double knockouts, although unfortunately, this one didn't turn out so well for one of the participants (or both considering);

    "A boxing bout between two students at the University of Southern California which ended in a double knockout, turned to tragedy when it was found that one of the boxers, Michael Carnakis, was dead. Carnakis had fought three draw rounds with Phillip Bromley, the deliverer of the fatal punch. Shortly after the start of the fourth and final round, both boxers tumbled to the floor unconscious. Bromley was the first to fall and Carnakis was declared the winner. Attendants tried in vain to revive Carnakis. For a time, fear was also held for Bromley, but after being unconscious for an hour and forty-five minutes he was revived." - Associated Press report, Mar 21st, 1928
     
  9. Senya13

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    Some of the very-long fights were stopped by the referee, when neither fighter was able to throw punches any longer (sometimes several rounds went without either throwing a single blow), because of injuries, or being too weak after fighting 50+ rounds.
     
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  11. Ezzard

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    Back in the 1980s Chisanda Mutti versus Leroy Murphy for a slice of the cruiser title. I think the fight took place in Monte Carlo.

    You've got to see this fight...
     
  12. Russell

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    Seen it!

    Amazing stuff.
     
  13. TBooze

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    To add to the story; the fight was under Frawley, so Wolgast had his own personal ref.

    Wolgast threw a wild punch at Rivers and knocked him down, but was so off balance himself he went head first into the corner ring post, knocking himself out.

    The ref started to count both fighters, then decided to help Wolgast up, but Ad was dead weight, and he could not, so the farce ended with Wolgast on the floor with the ref, Rivers standing up, but the ref claiming Rivers was counted out, because he was the first on the floor.

    As for the RockyII thing, it has happened in a IBF 190 title fight between Lee Roy Murphy and Mutti, Murphy got up, Mutti did not.

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  14. Guido

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl -- beat me to it!
     
  15. DamonD

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    Tony Tucker had one fight early on where he and his opponent bizarrely bashed their knees together and were both unable to continue. Never seen the footage, would like to.