Doug fisher,steve kim and michael montero on mayweather doping scandal

Roid saying I'm dehydrated is like a fat man saying I'm not hungry.

 

now you are saying that IV are more efficient than oral digestion?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9074966

Abstract
This study compared the influence of intravenous vs. oral rehydration after exercise-induced dehydration during a subsequent 90-min exercise bout. It was hypothesized that cardiovascular, thermoregulatory, and hormonal variables would be the same between intravenous and oral rehydration because of similar restoration of plasma volume (PV) and osmolality (Osmo). Eight non-heat-acclimated men received three experimental treatments (counterbalanced design) immediately after exercise-induced dehydration (33 degrees C) to -4% body weight loss. Treatments were intravenous 0.45% NaCl (iv; 25 ml/kg), no fluid (NF), and oral saline (Oral; 25 ml/kg). After rehydration and rest (2 h total), subjects walked at 50% maximal O2 consumption for up to 90 min at 36 degrees C. The following observations were made: 1) heart rate was higher (P < 0.05) in Oral vs. iv at minutes 45, 60, and 75 of exercise; 2) rectal temperature, sweat rate, percent change in PV, and change in plasma Osmo were similar between iv and Oral; 3) change in plasma norepinephrine decreased less (P < 0.05) in Oral compared with iv at minute 45; 4) changes in plasma adrenocorticotropic hormone and cortisol were similar between iv and Oral after exercise was initiated; and 5) exercise time was similar between iv (77.4 +/- 5.4 min) and Oral (84.2 +/- 2.3 min). These data suggest that after exercise-induced dehydration, iv and Oral were equally effective as rehydration treatments. Thermoregulation, change in adrenocorticotropic hormone, and change in cortisol were not different between iv and Oral after exercise began; this is likely due to similar percent change in PV and change in Osmo.

 

the man said so himself :rasta. what were the vitamins for seeing as though you do NOT need them for rehydration purposes??? answer that one sherlock.:good

 

no, i don't

floyd was asked a question and he answered it...

he said he was dehydrated.....to create ambiguity through saying there was more than one reason is too speculative...

 

It seems there's something else obvious that these flo mos keep ignoring. IV use is banned specifically for rehydration, it is not allowed. You get dehydrated drink some water. You cannot use dehydration as an excuse to use an IV because it is predominately used in sport to mask PEDs. Otherwise what will happen in boxing now? How many guys are going to follow Floyd's blueprint? This sets a terrible precedent.

 

http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/students/rehydration.htm

Intravenous versus Oral Rehydration: Which is best for your athletes?

IV vs. Oral
The practice of using intravenous (IV) fluids to rehydrate athletes appears to be fairly common, whether it's in the NFL, collegiate football1, at a marathon or after a triathlon. There are unquestioned medical benefits for providing an IV to a dehydrated athlete who is semi- or unconscious or who can not tolerate oral fluids. The prevailing notions among many sports health professionals are that an IV:

Is more effective than oral rehydration in rehydrating a dehydrated athlete.
Will provide a greater performance edge (over rehydrating orally) for an athlete between two bouts of exercise, such as the first and second halves of a football game or in between multiple daily workouts.
Many are surprised to learn that fluid taken orally has comparable physiological benefits compared to fluid given via IV. Of particular interest are studies that show oral rehydration may lead to lower body temperature2 and improved athletic performance2.

When you consider these advantages against the disadvantages associated with using an IV (i.e., treatment is invasive, requires trained medical staff, must be given off the field, increases risk of infection and bruising), an oral rehydration protocol is usually a more effective hydration approach.

Research Findings
To compare the response to IV and oral rehydration, researchers at the University of Connecticut conducted two studies summarized below.

Study 1: Halftime Scenario2-4
In this experiment, researchers compared rehydration methods when rapid fluid replacement is needed, as is often the case during halftime in a football or soccer game.

Subjects were first dehydrated by -4% of their body mass by exercise in the heat before a fluid-replacement protocol was administered:

Fifty percent of fluid loss replaced over 20 minutes by ingestion.
Fifty percent of fluid loss replaced over 20 minutes by IV (normal saline).
No fluid replaced.
Immediately following the 20-minute rehydration period, the subjects cycled at 70 percent VO2max until they exhausted. The ambient room temperature was set at 98.6ºF and the relative humidity was 50%.

The researchers found that during exercise:

Plasma volume and osmality, skin blood flow, stroke volume, cardiac output and stress hormone response were similar for IV and oral rehydration.
Skin and rectal temperatures were lower with oral replacement than in the IV trial.
Thirst and ratings of perceived exertion were lower in the oral trial than in the IV trial.
Performance for the group receiving oral fluids tended to be better than the group receiving the IV, but did not reach statistical significance.
Subjects who were partially rehydrated (in both the oral and IV treatments) experienced greatly enhanced physiological responses and performance for nearly all variables as compared to subjects who were not rehydrated.
Study 2: Two-a-Days Scenario5-7
In this study, researchers compared multiple rehydration techniques over a longer rehydration period, a scenario not unlike what happens with multiple daily workouts.

Subjects were first dehydrated to -4% body mass before rehydration:

Seventy-five percent of fluid loss replaced orally over 45 minutes.
Seventy-five percent of fluid loss replaced via IV (1/2 normal saline) over 45 minutes.
Seventy-five percent of fluid loss replaced via IV (normal saline) over 45 minutes.
No fluid replacement.
Seventy-five minutes passed before the subjects walked at 50 percent VO2max for 90 minutes with the ambient room temperature set at 98.6ºF.

The results indicated that:

Rectal temperature, skin temperature, sweat rate, performance and stress hormone responses were similar in the IV and oral groups.
Interestingly, thirst and rating of perceived exertion were lower in the oral trial than in the IV trials.
Why Oral Rehydration is Better
These results demonstrate no discernable advantage for IV compared to oral rehydration. The data also suggest that oral fluid replacement may provide a performance advantage, reduce the subjective perception of thirst and make exercise feel easier (lower RPE). Additional research is needed to further characterize these differences.

Perhaps the greatest advantage of an effective oral rehydration protocol is that it encourages athletes to take an active role in rehydrating themselves, thus avoiding psychological dependence on intravenous fluids. Keeping the athlete responsible for his or her fluid replacement needs is the best approach to reduce the risks associated with dehydration.

 

^^It's also on WADA's freaking site. IV use for dehydration carries no advantage over any other method of rehydration.


Thus dehydration is simply an excuse to flush ones system using IV.

 

dont go there dude, there are numerous studys on this subject, and plenty of flawed ones at that, you wont reverse my years of research in my field as a naturopath & nutritionist with one study. anyway we out, bedtime here in oz.

 

i have gone there:

vitamin C is a natural diuretic which flushes out the system

http://www.biochemj.org/content/ppbiochemj/31/2/339.full.pdf

Diuretics [5] and Perma Cleanse [12]. Athletes often take diuretics in an effort to cleanse their system before having to provide a sample. These can work tremendously well... One mail-order system that is supposedly undetectable as a diuretic or in any lab test but uses the same means to evade a positive test - detoxification - is Perma Cleanse... A classic method of evading positive drug tests is to couple the use of natural herb diuretics such as dandelion root, uva ursi, and caffeine with fasting."



at the end of the day, these findings are evidenced by WADA's testing protocol....so there is nothing furthermore to discuss

 

There is more evidence for Mayweather cheating, then there is for Cosby having drugged and ****d anyone.

Floyd's low T.E. ratios are also quite damning.

 

But but but but those vitamins doe.

 

guys who can afford to drop 130k

but considering how prevalent PEDs are in boxing without getting caught
i wonder if many boxers are using IVs

surely they are doing something to beat the test

 

I hear PAC is dealing drugs.

 

Floyd nuthuggers on extreme damage control :rofl

 

What a damning video. Mayweather may be scurrying off with his filthy legacy of bullying and grift but he is leaving behind the dirtiest gym in boxing with the same scumbags running things.

Also interesting to hear how a positive Quillen sample mysteriously got lost. Makes you wonder how many more of these guys are operating with USADA in their pockets? They should also nlook into who is supposed to be testing Stevenson, Pascal and Lemieux in Canada.