Dr IronFist vs Big George Foreman

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  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Bullshhit. Prime Foreman was just under 220 when he beat Frazier and just over when he beat Norton. He was 6-3 1/2. So Foreman did not have the advantage in bulk or size. He also wilted under the pressure of Jimmy Young so he was not exactly immune to light hitters.
     
  2. SILVER SKULL 66

    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Foreman weighed 220 against Ali, was in the 240's when he came back in 1988, and was a huge 257 when he faced Holyfield in 1991:deal..

    Everybody knows most guys weigh in lighter then when they step into the ring, ALSO The guy's George faced were waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyy better than the guy's VK faced, the best guy VK faced sliced up his grill so bad it looked like he went thru a meat grinder at Jersey GIANT subs..

    I'll take the career Big George had over that Russians career any day of the week 2x on Sunday, anybody that disagrees with that is just plain STUPID...

    George would have whopped his ass...

    Hell VK'S brother had a better career than him...

    Oh and George lost a decision to Young, which is a helluva lot better than quitting like a dog, like VK did against Byrd..
     
  3. VVMM

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    1.Basically two overrated lanky and slow guys(Foreman and Vitali).
    I think Vitali Quitoris had steroid case in amateur.I can imagine this case had good reasons. klitschko wasn't so strong.He wasn't extremely ripped otherwise or muscular.
    His neck and legs are/were skinny.
    Basically he was a busy (not explosive) puncher.He looked good against
    fat and/or unathletic punchin' bags.
    He punched and punched poor glass-chinned fat and total out of shape Lewis.
    And? What happened? vitali lost.
    He couldn't slaughter the glass-chinned chicken Byrd.
    Etc.
    Vitali Quitoris had only remarkable thing.His stamina.
    -In 1973-01-22 Foreman was only 217.5 lbs for 6'3.5" against Frazier.
    This isn't impressive for a tall fighter at all-except when we talk about a very skilled, dancing tall fighter(Ali) or a super talented athlete (Tony Tucker).
    George was slow and easy to hit without good one-punch ko power.

    But George father was tough and brave.
    His chin was great.This is the reason why he had lots of ko win because
    he could find the ideal position for the punching without FEAR.
    ( Seemingly everybody can punch somebody out -without big power-
    from an ideal position.)
    2. Foreman was lucky because Frazier was weak and slow and Norton
    was glass-chinned fighters.Moorer has a weak chin also.
    These are his best wins this is the reason why he's an ATG.
    V. Klitschko hasn't remarkable win.His greatness is just a speculation.
    The 38 years old fat Sanders or the 38 years old buffoon Briggs his best wins.
    3.Honorable mention Vitali's coward step back style.
    Who was the better ? I don't know but i can imagine an interesting fight
    when the slow Foreman tries to destroy Quitali and the frightened Vitali runs
    away by his clumsy style.
     
  4. VVMM

    VVMM Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Don't be too nervous ! I think you're a Foreman fan.
    Everybody has opinion and don't cry like a hysterical ***** !
     
  5. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    You hate the Klitschkos we get it.. You can stop posting already. :good:good
     
  6. clark

    clark Well-Known Member Full Member

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    George wilted under his own exhaustion of chasing a dodging Jimmy Young around the ring in the thin air of Puerto Rico for 12 rounds.
     
  7. anton

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    If george hits anybody on the chin its goodnight i dont care how good vitalis chin is
     
  8. Vigilance777

    Vigilance777 Active Member Full Member

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    Lol seriously I'd take George any day for just sheer power. Overrated? Maybe. But it's still monstrous.
     
  9. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    Whose going to land first though? In my opinion vitali will do. Its up to george to turn into a monster that he could be. But remember You dont just walk through vitali's jab and right hands.
     
  10. anton

    anton Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Look at the moorer fight the punch he kod him with didnt even look hard
     
  11. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Foreman quit boxing after Jimmy Young, a pillow fisted wonder beat him up.

    If you want to talk comeback Foreman, he likely lost to A. Stewart, could not land enough to stop a weak chined Morrison, and was badly outclassed by Holyfield, while avoiding a match with an older Larry Holmes at all costs. Heck a shot Jerry ****ey rocked Foreman, as did journeyman Ken Lakusta. Watch the flims.

    Okay. Foreman caught Mike Moorrer looking down the barrel of the gun, and pulled off an upset, but take note Moorrer was easily winning, and Vitlai has 5X the chin. The shot that Foreman landed wouldn't even make Vital cover up.

    Vitali has a field day on the older Foreman.
     
  12. Seamus

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    And which of these versions would you qualify as "prime"? His two greatest performances were at 217 and 224. Dealt.
     
  13. Seamus

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    Peralta and Young disagree.

    Look, I would probably shade toward a prime Foreman in this bout but it's no landslide. Foreman was beatable. And Foreman would get hitÂ… a lot. It would be a great tussle.
     
  14. heavy_handss

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    The weight does not prove WHO is naturally bigger, foreman weighed "only " 217 pounds. For the frazier fight in 1973. And still he looked a giant, it is all about frame, you have tons OF fighters WHO weighed more than 217 pounds and WERE naturally smaller than foreman, George was clearly drained at 217- 220, he weighed 232 in 1976 and he weighed 229 pounds in the amateurs at 18, however bowe and Lewis weighed 216 and 220 in their amateur fight at 22 and 23, you are talking about different eras and different Training, vitali in his early career was nothing but a skinny Long Boy former kick boxer with Long legs, he weighed around 230 pounds and he was 6'7, it is skinny for a guy that tall, theb he trained weights etc and changed his body until 240 Athletic pounds in his best shape, foreman was a natural 230 pounder being a fighter OF the 70s WHO never did even push ups ( he said that he did once in 1976 and hid chest looked great) , vitali was a little heavier because he was tall like hell, but foreman was naturally bulker, stronger and he had longer reach, if you put both Men in the same era i suspect that vitali would not be more than 5 pounds heavier than George, and it would ve only cause the Height, but the Height does not make you "bigger" Thomas hearns ' nunn or Foster were not bigger than frazier
     
  15. lepinthehood

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    longer reach? since when